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#884903 Nico O'Reilly
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In FM24 Nico O'Reilly doesn't have LB as a Natural position (as he plays most of the time in real life), can this be updated?

#884902 Josh King
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Josh King now plays as a natural CAM, with CM his secondary position, he rarely plays CDM. Can this be updated?

#874003 FM24 Player and Staff Updates
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By M.C 13 March 2026 - 11:23 AM UTC 

As an aside, it's worth noting the Site Admin is actively working on reacting/preparing the data following the recent FM26 official update (FM26.2). There is a fair amount to do and we will look to tackle the issue with removed, non-playing staff after we have that all fundamentally in place.

 

As for Vinai Venkatesham, I am not sure you and I agree on the situation with him. For me, he appears in FM24 as Tottenham Hotspur's Managing Director. I can see the changes being successfully written into the Data Update file when I look in the Pre-Game Editor.

 

I am not using any files except for this website's FM24 Data Update. Have you definitively tried to start a new game with the FM24 Data Update only to verify the same?

 

Ah maybe one of my other files is now fiddling with him, appreciate you looking into it! Appreciate all the work you all do especially around update time! 

#873990 FM24 Player and Staff Updates
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By M.C 13 March 2026 - 10:21 AM UTC 

Apologies, this is a very slow reply - and I know you've mentioned this a few times. I just wanted to circle back around and acknowledge - I'm looking at (and discussing internally) the best method to tackle this.

 

For your awareness, I believe the situation with Daniel Levy (and any others who are part of the same use-case) is that he has been removed from FM26. As he's not in the database at all, there was a point in time where the data-sets were consolidated to support both updates (which makes sense). Certain Data Update submissions/changes would've been purged as a result of this - for example, the approved change that would've removed Daniel Levy from Tottenham Hotspur in FM24. The result is that there are no changes being applied to his Person record in FM24…and so he's exactly where he would have been in the default FM24.3 database.

 

I am hoping we will find a systematic way to tackle this situation by re-importing certain purged data, however if this isn't possible, then I will create a manual, additional file whose sole purpose will be to apply changes to high-profile non-playing staff (like Daniel Levy) who only exist in FM24…however, doing it the manual way will be susceptible to the scope being limited to the top-level ‘big leagues’ as I can't check every staff record for every club…

 

Just as an aside: the exact job titles/roles cannot always be matched. Alas, for this, our options are the ones that FM24 provides us. Therefore, for example, I would not classify it as a mistake that Vinai Venkatesham is listed as the Managing Director and Matthew Collecott as a ‘Director’. This is the best-fit available.

 

That's brill thanks for the answer, assumed it was a tricky one. It's strange especially on Vinai as I can see he's has had the change made on the database but he just doesn't show up in FM24, I've tried to edit it myself in the Editor too and it's an odd one

#873067 FM24 Player and Staff Updates
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By WelshViking7 03 March 2026 - 19:58 PM UTC 

I'm going to ask for a refund if the likes of KSI, Snoop or Trump and his “nobel peace prize” are added to the updates 😂

 

Fair enough on that one haha!

 

@M.C Still can't see Vinai at Spurs and Daniel Levy (and the others mentioned) remain on the board, is there a reason these are broken?

#872945 Vinai Venkatesham
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Still not showing in-game on FM24 so re-added

#872944 Peter Charrington
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Not showing as Chairperson on FM24 so re-added the change. Daniel Levy, Donna Maria-Cullen, Rebecca Caplehorn and Scott Mun all still show on the Tottenham board but no option to remove them on sortitoutsi.

#872381 FM24 Player and Staff Updates
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By oopsupsideyourhead 02 February 2026 - 23:21 PM UTC 

It seems the Tottenham staff reverted a while ago to having Daniel Levy as Chairperson in the FM24 database, can this be rectified? https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/the-club/investor-relations/club-directors/

 

In real life Spurs' board members are:

Peter Charrington - Non-Executive Chairman

Vinai Venkatesham - Chief Executive Officer (down as Managing Director in current Data Update)

Matthew Collecott - Operations and Finance Director (down as Director in current Data Update)

Jonathan Turner - Lead Independent Director

Eric Hinson - Non-Executive Director

 

To be removed in current Data Update:

Daniel Levy

Donna-Maria Cullen

Rebecca Caplehorn

 

Had a look to see if I could contribute changes for this but couldn't see an option anywhere, thanks!

 

Not sure whether any of these have been re-instated in the data update yet?

 

Also got a fun one, KSI being a shareholder at Dagenham & Redbridge, would that get him in the game? https://daggers.co.uk/global-superstar-ksi-joins-dagenham-redbridge-fc-as-shareholder-and-strategic-partner/

#869980 Josh King
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He plays mostly as a CAM, sometimes even as a left-sided winger, he doesn't play as a DM ever

#869298 FM24 Player and Staff Updates
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By M.C 11 February 2026 - 20:13 PM UTC 

A fix was pushed earlier today, targeting a resolution for the ‘incorrect staff roles’ that we have been seeing in the FM24 Data Update.

 

I have done some quick spot-checks and tests and I believe we are now in the correct state again. I must caveat that with the fact that I have only had a chance to check a few, individual examples.

 

From everything we could establish - including the examples, which have been very useful from those who shared them - we believe this was affecting non-playing staff who were originally playing staff (in the FM24.3 database). The result was that many of them were being set as first-team coaches (incorrectly).

 

Since the fix was pushed out, I am now correctly seeing non-playing staff in the correct roles in all cases I have been able to spot-check. Those with access to the Enhanced Data Update will have access to the resolved version right now, whilst those with access to the free Data Update may need to wait until the overnight release.

 

Apologies for the inconvenience this has caused - but I think it's been cracked now.

 

Awesome stuff, hope it sorts that issue out!

 

Any chance the owners of clubs are fixed by this? Or can be fixed? 

#868010 Data Update Home Thread
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By Bryan Cheetham 04 February 2026 - 19:41 PM UTC 

A lot of the winter transfer loans are showing as £0 wage contribution. Also some staff issues remain, which I listed above. Some player loans remain missing also. Example - Asier Villalibre is on loan at Racing Santander but the loan isn't active on the latest update I've downloaded. All on FM24.

Yeah the staff ones for me, I did a longer post in the “FM 24 Player and Staff Updates” thread on Tottenham specifically but feel it may be the same for some others (such as Newcastle and Man Utd)

 

#867537 FM24 Player and Staff Updates
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It seems the Tottenham staff reverted a while ago to having Daniel Levy as Chairperson in the FM24 database, can this be rectified? https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/the-club/investor-relations/club-directors/

 

In real life Spurs' board members are:

Peter Charrington - Non-Executive Chairman

Vinai Venkatesham - Chief Executive Officer (down as Managing Director in current Data Update)

Matthew Collecott - Operations and Finance Director (down as Director in current Data Update)

Jonathan Turner - Lead Independent Director

Eric Hinson - Non-Executive Director

 

To be removed in current Data Update:

Daniel Levy

Donna-Maria Cullen

Rebecca Caplehorn

 

Had a look to see if I could contribute changes for this but couldn't see an option anywhere, thanks!

#863019 Data Update Home Thread
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By Footygamer 05 January 2026 - 01:41 AM UTC 

Someone using this tool fucked up somehow, i'm working on try and fix it and prevent it happening in future: https://sortitoutsi.net/content/75869/helping-to-fix-duplicate-players 

Thanks for this, very random I suddenly had Saka playing against me for Liverpool after being signed from that Finnish team for £5m in the January, confused me a bit! Any idea if it's something fixable? FM24 in case that makes a difference

#857530 Important breaking changes to the Cut Out Player Faces Megapack
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Thanks for the heads up, redownloaded the entire 2026 onwards

 

Assume this will need to be changed for the 2026 version of the New Players Megapack?

#844304 FM24 Player and Staff Updates
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Is it possible to re-add Fabio Paratici to Tottenham? Seems he dropped off the database back when the Juventus scandal happened

https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2025/october/tottenham-hotspur-unveils-new-men-s-football-leadership-structure/

#841018 FM24 CA/PA and Attributes Updates
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By M.C 11 September 2025 - 11:02 AM UTC 

@Osarogie @thehet @andynufc10 @oopsupsideyourhead @ryanpark - tagging those who have specifically asked about this recently.

 

Just to confirm, a latest build of the CA/PA update (which is part of the Enhanced/Classic FM Data Update) was performed. It was finalised this morning, about 60 minutes ago.

 

To that end, it will be included from tomorrow's update onwards (unfortunately, it was completed too late for the build that was released about 7 hours ago).

 

On the note of presenting the ‘last update’ on the download page systematically, we are not going to do that because we are now very close to integrating these changes to be re-processed, daily, as standard - which was always the goal.

 

Brilliant news and look forward to starting a new game over the weekend! 

#840724 FM24 CA/PA and Attributes Updates
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Yeah it would be good to have a post or note by the download to say when the last CA/PA attribute update was

#839647 Troubleshooting Football Manager Data Update Installation - How to install Football Manager Databases
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By M.C 03 September 2025 - 22:05 PM UTC 

I've not been able to replicate this/seen this happen. For context, because of the issues with the player contracts today, I have probably - using today's update - started about 20-25 different test games throughout the course of the day.

 

Are you able to share screenshots of your ‘editor data’ folder and/or the in-game ‘enabled files’ view? What I am looking for is definitive confirmation that you are only using content from the Data Update.

 

This specific error suggests there is an issue with a file that includes ‘Advanced Rules’ for a nation (i.e. league rules/structure etc). In the Data Update, there haven't been any such files introduced since 27th August, so I am struggling to align an obvious reason for the sudden appearance of this kind of error for you.

No problem thanks for the explanation! I'll do some testing my end, I have always combined the files with some others so maybe one of those has recently had some incompatibility

 

#839630 Troubleshooting Football Manager Data Update Installation - How to install Football Manager Databases
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Not sure whether this has happened for anyone else but since trying to load the game today I've been getting a “rule group has empty discipline rules” error when setting up the database. This didn't happen before today, it doesn't seem to affect anything after I click to close the window after it pops up a few times.

#767893 SS' kits Technical Support Thread
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Similar here think the latest config is making my kits no longer appear in game, any idea on a fix?

 

EDIT: fixed it, put the config.xml in the kits folder, all_config,xml in the graphics folder 

#730658 FM23-Real league fixtures and results [WIP] Read the opening post for nations included
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By jj_johnsmills 03 March 2023 - 04:15 AM UTC 

Doesn't let you start a new save with the fixtures on the new winter update it says it needs to be tested and verified?

 

File needs to be updated to the new database, just got to wait for the file to be updated 🙂

#727243 FM23-Real league fixtures and results [WIP] Read the opening post for nations included
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By mush7 03 February 2023 - 10:17 AM UTC 

thanks and nothing i can do about that plus prem will have a few random results these are the  original fixture list so eg arsenal man city is on its original date 

 

No worries was just making sure people know as I forgot it was a thing! Thanks again 🙂

#727229 FM23-Real league fixtures and results [WIP] Read the opening post for nations included
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This is great, thank you so much for the work! Just a heads up the table sometimes comes out a bit wrong in Premier League (if you load a save to 30th Jan) as Carabao Cup & FA Cup are randomised so some games get moved and have different results!

#715209 Data Update Home Thread
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Doesn't look like it, will happily wait until Decmeber in this case!

#702841 League Updates FM22
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Just to mirror another comment, love the new download options especially the Future Start. However not planning to use it unless the 5 subs (3 stoppages) rule can be added into it for the leagues that now use it? Not a problem if it can't, I did a little look myself but I'm no good delving that far into the editor! Thanks for all your work 🙂

#623069 Arsenal/Liverpool SS home kits not showing in the game after preseason
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I think this is a known issue, found this readme file in the 3D version of the kits, info copied below for convenience:

 

Arsenal, Liverpool and few other kits won't be visible in some competitions if you don't use *.fmf editor data file that  is included in this pack.

 

The file should be unpacked in your ...documents/sports interactive/football manager 2021/editor data folder.


When starting new game, make sure the file is listed and selected in database selection menu (upper right corner).

 

Video of full installation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unuu-itsJpE&t=40s

 

If you're already in career in progress and don't want to start new game, then in-game editor is required. In kits & color section, find shirt items, delete multiple entries and for the one and only that remains, make sure it's not assigned to any competition.

#614298 Stuart Lewis
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Added a change again as he was still showing as a player instead of a U18 Coach
#613035 Stuart Lewis
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This is still a problem! He is listed as a player instead of a Coach in the data update!!