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#687189 Irish Club in English League
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The Dublin Dons

 

I came across a story from over 20 years ago about the controversy between south London team Wimbledon moving cities to north of London in Milton Keynes ,which as is well noted caused quite the out roar at the time, but what I didn't realize is that one of the proposed locations for the new team to be moved to was Dublin. This move would have created a team called the Dublin Dons, becoming the first Irish team to compete in the English leagues.

 

More than 25 years ago, an Irish consortium led by Eamon Dunphy tried to buy Wimbledon FC and move it to Dublin. Some of the key players recall the story, and wonder what Irish football might look like now had it happened.

A consortium led by  Irish football legend Eamon Dunphy tried to buy the team and make the move happen but ultimately they were unsuccessful.

 

This struck me as an interesting idea because I've noticed the phenomenon of Irish young players being plucked from Ireland in their youth because there is no solid and competitive teams locally to give them the opportunities for growth. 

So I thought if there was a team for Irish players to go to, it would change how Irish players develop entirely as they'd be able develop at one club, rather than being scattered across the English leagues after going over to England, going to trial after trial.

Wimbledon fans also emphatically rejected what was called the "sexy" option of moving to Dublin, displaying banners saying "Dublin = Death" at games in Selhurst Park - this despite the fancifully pitched idea that the club would strike a deal to fly fans over and back from London to Dublin for free to see their team every week.

Also included in this deal of moving the Dons to Dublin was an agreement to pay the League of Ireland clubs a payoff of €5 million approx. and a €127 million project of a 50,000 seater stadium, located where shopping centre Liffey Valley exists today, as well as a provision of a number of football schools of excellence around Ireland.

 

New Badge Design

 

I decided to try to make this team in Football Manager 2022, trying to imagine how a team in Ireland would exist in the modern game.

I have replaced MK Dons and completely overwritten their history with the new team Dublin Dons.

 

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#687066 Club world cup only taking in 2025
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I thought this tournament was an annual one but in my game it only takes places in 2025 which feels like an eternity to get to.

Is there a way to fix this so it's annual?

#686981 Problem with mass edits in Editor
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I'm having a problem with editing multiple players/clubs/etc in one selection as the editor just stops to load the change and it will take several minutes, if the change even occurs, to implement the change.

 

With previous FM editors I've been able to do this in seconds with no problems (on the same PC) but now I'm having difficulties.

I'm not sure if it's just a technical problem on my computer's end with something malfunctioning or it's the game itself but I'd like a fix for it somehow.

 

 

#686838 Banned words in FM22
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By sleipnirfossa 27 April 2022 - 20:37 PM UTC 

“Red Tube”
really? lol

 

No clue what that one is even in reference to

#686836 Banned words in FM22
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Why did the replies get removed?

#686791 Banned words in FM22
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I'm trying to mod the game and found a file called “banned words” and the list is pretty funny.

 

The file can be found at this directory C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Football Manager 2022\data\game 

 In order to access and see the file you will need to extract it with the resource archiver.

 

 

 

without further ado, here is the list.

 

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#627155 [FM 21] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By leopritchard 29 March 2021 - 21:00 PM UTC 

My Bad!

 

thanks for your help 🙂

 

No problem! Let me know if you need any other help

#627153 When I create a new nation in FM21 it reverts back to the original nation name. How do you fix this?
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By mons 28 March 2021 - 13:58 PM UTC 

Did you change it in all 5 lnc folders?

 

I tried that but it still didn't fix it. Not sure what it could be.

#627111 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By luiz junior05 29 March 2021 - 16:26 PM UTC 

are they just teams from Rio Grande do Sul?

 

Its the teams from Parana, Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul.

In my FM21 version I made it so Italian and German regens appear in Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina and in Parana they also get Polish and Ukrainian regens as well as Italian and Germans.

 

Here's a map of the 3 states.

 

Parana is in Yellow - Santa Catarina is in Green - Rio Grande do Sul is Red
#627109 [FM 21] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By leopritchard 29 March 2021 - 14:06 PM UTC 

instead of the new flag, ingame i see the republic of volta flag,  i assume the nation you edited from. 

Any idea how i fix this?

 

if you are using a different logo pack make sure to check the nations section in the folders to see if there is a folder of extinct nations flags. If you are using a different pack it could be taking priority over the logos for South Brazil. (I use the TCM logo pack and I had the same problem when I first started the game)

 

What you need to do is find the Upper Volta flag in the pack by looking through the folders or you can search with the unique ID number for Upper Volta (ID: 13116454).

 

For me the directory is

 C: \Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2021\graphics\Logos\TCM Logos Megapack TCM21\Megapack TCM21\graphics\Logos\Others\Nations\large\other

 

Then once you find it you can either delete/move the flag or you can go into the config file and remove the line of code for Upper Volta in that specific config file. 

 

You will also need to delete this line of code for the small logos as well.

#626955 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By TiagoSeattle 28 March 2021 - 14:34 PM UTC 

You are very good with design!

 

Obrigado!

#626810 [FM 21] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By rmbrasil 28 March 2021 - 16:46 PM UTC 

Liga do Partido Nacional-Socialista dos Trabalhadores Alemães.

 

os alemães que escaparam 😂

#626673 When I create a new nation in FM21 it reverts back to the original nation name. How do you fix this?
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By mons 28 March 2021 - 08:50 AM UTC 

User needs to either edit the current lnc file they have or to also change the long name, not just the short name.

 

I'm using the sortitoutsi namefix Inc at the moment and I changed all the name details on the country already. 

#626570 When I create a new nation in FM21 it reverts back to the original nation name. How do you fix this?
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By kingrobbo 28 March 2021 - 02:18 AM UTC 

Thats looking like a bug there, as I have changed countries names previously in the editor and its been fine so you may need to report to SI

 

@mons  are you aware if an Inc file can do this like changing club/stadium/comp names etc

 

That could be it. 

I just looked at the screenshot again and saw the skin I was using has a communist fist in the corner :/

Guess I need to find a different one to use now 😠

#626567 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By Wallinson Ramos 26 March 2021 - 01:01 AM UTC 

Hey man, have you heard about “O Sul é Meu País” (The South is My Country)? It is a small separatist movement that calls for the independence of the southern region of Brazil. Here are the movement flag:
 

In the past there a pre-season regional league (Copa Sul, later Copa Sul-Minas), with around 12-16 teams. In addition, if you add the first division of each state championship, you will have at least 36 fully-professional teams. If you consider the lower divisions of each three states, there will be more 60+ semi-professional or short season professional teams.

 

 

New Sulista football confederation logo.

#626564 When I create a new nation in FM21 it reverts back to the original nation name. How do you fix this?
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I made a new country out of Upper Volta but whenever you view the nation once the game is loaded it will still show the name Upper Volta even though it's been changed.

 

I didn't have this problem in FM20 so maybe there is something new in this game that changed.

 

The nation will show up changed at first but then when you go into the squad screen the old nation name shows up.

I've tried using a different nation and it didn't work.

 

#626562 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By TiagoSeattle 27 March 2021 - 18:47 PM UTC 

I was supposed to go to Belfast last year.
but the pandemic ended my plans

 

You would have enjoyed it! Many Brazilians visit Ireland and love it a lot. 

#626431 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By TiagoSeattle 27 March 2021 - 14:38 PM UTC 

What country do you belong to?

 

I am from Ireland.

#626274 How to give newgens/regens dual nationality?
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By kingrobbo 27 March 2021 - 02:51 AM UTC 

woohoo  you can buy me a coffee one day

 

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Sounds like a plan 

#626271 How to give newgens/regens dual nationality?
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By kingrobbo 27 March 2021 - 01:16 AM UTC 

as said my friend I havent used it myself but worth a try I think it was possibly 2018/19 when I read someone was testing this and it worked well for them hope it does for you

 

just do a test and report back 🤞 run a holiday test in game hope it works

 

It works great!

#626265 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By TiagoSeattle 26 March 2021 - 23:43 PM UTC 

You need to try the gaucho barbecue (roast beef) is wonderful!

My favorite is  Costela na vala (rib in the ditch)

*I'm not sure if I translated the name of the right food
 

 

Parece maravilhoso! Vou visitar o Brasil quando houver restrição menos no meu país para viagens. Espero conseguir alguma Costela na vala quando estiver lá!

#626262 How to give newgens/regens dual nationality?
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By kingrobbo 27 March 2021 - 00:04 AM UTC 

@renskay 

 

IIRC A few years ago someone did this by moving some of the local regions to a different country  [so for you some south Brazil regions/or all have set to Germany/Italy]

 

Then regens/newgens would become dual nationals then🤞

 

 When you have the region in a different nation than the city, it will give you the nation of the city as the players primary nation and the nation of the region as his secondary nation, and they should be eligible for both countries.

 

its something I have not used but sure this proved to be successful ,hope it helps you. Have a play around and report back how it goes😉

 

 


 

 

Hopefully having regions set in completely foreign countries doesn't mess up any of the league structure. It seems like a nice work around. 

#626261 How to give newgens/regens dual nationality?
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By kingrobbo 27 March 2021 - 00:17 AM UTC 

so a region like Santa Catarina change Nation to Germany

 

 

 

 

The cities will still stay in Brazil

 

Hope this works for you

 

I'll give it a try! Thanks for the advice.

 

#626247 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By TiagoSeattle 26 March 2021 - 17:29 PM UTC 


I think the name Brasil do sul is cooler. However, I think the name they would choose would be Araucânia or Iguassu

 

I like that one too. Also the Sul é meu pais movement has some cool music.  😀

 

#626244 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By TiagoSeattle 26 March 2021 - 17:33 PM UTC 

Another important information to give you some idea:

The “O Sul é meu País movement” was founded in Curitiba, Paraná, but currently the movement's headquarters are in Passo Fundo, Rio Grande do Sul. Once again, there are plenty of opportunities to choose the capital of the new country. - and there are those who defend the choice of a city in Santa Catarina, to stay in the middle of the road.

I believe that one of the 3 cities would be the capital

 

Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to set your capital city in the game. It used to be a feature but they don't give you the option to do it in the editor any more.

 

I will just have to set the national Stadium as the makeshift capital city.

 

I got a copy of FM 21 today so I'm going to start working on releasing the nation but updated for FM 21.

 

#626132 How to give newgens/regens dual nationality?
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I'm trying to make it so more newgens of German and Italian second nationality get produced in Brazil but it doesn't seem like there are any options to do that in the editor.

 

But… I went into the comp editor folder and searched for “newgen” and found this line of code suggesting there may be a way somewhere in the game files to change how to alter the settings of a nations of percentage of producing a foreign nation player.


    <!-- Nation Newgen Specifications -->
     <record>
       <flags id="field" value="CNse" />
       <translation id="name" translation_id="494160" type="use" value="Nation Newgen Specifications[COMMENT: AREA: Editor; SUB-AREA: Club Editor Details; FR: 694; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None; REF-ID: n/a; NOTE: each country in the database has rules governing the type of player they tend to produce, this is a hint explaining that]" />
       <translation id="hint" translation_id="494161" type="use" value="Nation Newgen Specifications bias the nationalities of players being generated by the club.[COMMENT: AREA: Editor; SUB-AREA: Club Editor Details; FR: 694; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None; REF-ID: n/a; NOTE: each country in the database has rules governing the type of player they tend to produce, this is a hint explaining that]" />
       <boolean id="debug_only" value="true" />
       <flags id="type" value="list" />
       <record id="list_item">
         <list id="fields">

#626042 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By TiagoSeattle 26 March 2021 - 12:05 PM UTC 

I am Brazilian.
There is a movement to separate the south of the country.
The names suggested by the movement are: Brasil do Sul, Brasul, Estados Unidos do Sul, Confederação Sulista, Pampas do Sul, República dos Pampas, Araucânia, Iguassu.

 

Which name do you think fits them best for the country?

 

#625987 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By Wallinson Ramos 26 March 2021 - 01:01 AM UTC 

Hey man, have you heard about “O Sul é Meu País” (The South is My Country)? It is a small separatist movement that calls for the independence of the southern region of Brazil. Here are the movement flag:
 

In the past there a pre-season regional league (Copa Sul, later Copa Sul-Minas), with around 12-16 teams. In addition, if you add the first division of each state championship, you will have at least 36 fully-professional teams. If you consider the lower divisions of each three states, there will be more 60+ semi-professional or short season professional teams.

 

I never knew that! That is really interesting, I will have to read about it further to learn more about this separatist movement. 

I will also look to include their flag into my designs for the country because before you mentioned it I didn't know it existed. For my other designs I just used the old German flag combined with the colonial emblem of Brazil which was used on previous flags.

 

>if you add the first division of each state championship, you will have at least 36 fully-professional teams. If you consider the lower divisions of each three states, there will be more 60+ semi-professional or short season professional teams.

 

Also that seems like a great idea. Thank you!

 

#625986 [FM 20] South of Brazil as a *NEW NATION*
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By kingrobbo 26 March 2021 - 01:35 AM UTC 

it is amazing that these places exist saw a programme a few years ago on this was brilliant in the middle of nowhere in South America-

 

 

Villagers at beer festival in the village of Klais in Bavaria, Germany News  Photo - Getty Images

 

 

Yes it really amazed me when I first heard about it too. 

This may or may not be the documentary you are referring to but this is a nice little documentary about a small town in the South of Brazil called Walachai where the people speak mostly German and live a humble village farming life.

 

 

#625604 Editing an extinct nation
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You don't need to make the nation no longer extinct to make it active because to my knowledge it's not an option.

 

Just set the new details of the nation then it's usually required to set the continent of the nation which is greyed out by default and it requires some awkward alterations to a line of code in the program (x86) program files for football manager.

 

Check this thread for a guide

Here's a basic tutorial I found that helped me

Here are some other helpful videos

 

FM Editor Guide - Creating a new league structure in Football Manager 2015

How to create a regional database: Introduction - Playlist of Videos Here