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The NaNoWriMo target is 50,000 but I'm not just going to stop at 50 and say "I'm out" I'll go on until it fits. There's a list which shows famous novel lengths, I'll link it when I get back. "Seb" is waiting for me outside, I'm going for lunch.

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By Fantastic | Permalink | On 06 November 2012 - 14:12 PM

The NaNoWriMo target is 50,000 but I'm not just going to stop at 50 and say "I'm out" I'll go on until it fits. There's a list which shows famous novel lengths, I'll link it when I get back. "Seb" is waiting for me outside, I'm going for lunch.

Stay off the ket.

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06 Nov 2012 15:57:51

Actually, I just arranged to travel, by train, from London to Beijing via India. Sometime early next year.

Here's that word count list:

http://commonplacebook.com/culture/literature/books/word-count-for-famous-novels/

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06 Nov 2012 16:28:24

Just reading it again, the Loose Women bit is fine I think, the bit where you're getting off with Alexandra in the club goes on a bit too long for me, could be condensed. (Literally just the kissing part not the rest)

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06 Nov 2012 16:48:19

All in due course. I need the feedback, but I'm not going to touch it until the final words are said. The final words are almost certainly going to be "and it was all a dream."

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06 Nov 2012 16:52:49

Any chance I can have a read of it so far Fanny?

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06 Nov 2012 16:54:47

Send me your email and I'll add you in.

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06 Nov 2012 16:59:13

PM'd you

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06 Nov 2012 18:04:12

What i've read there was brilliant as usual, the bits on the Breakfast presenters was fucking hilarious, and when you went into addictions towards the end of chapter 13, I see the point you made completely, i've found something I actually feel disappointed when there's no more to read. Keep it up

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08 Nov 2012 03:33:57

I've decided to switch tense halfway through the book. Which is going to kill me when it comes to editing.

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08 Nov 2012 08:51:24

By Fantastic | Permalink | On 08 November 2012 - 03:33 AM

I've decided to switch tense halfway through the book. Which is going to kill me when it comes to editing.

Google Docs says you've put the story in your rubbish bin?

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By Franck | Permalink | On 08 November 2012 - 08:51 AM

Google Docs says you've put the story in your rubbish bin?

I had to change the file so it auto backs up. I think I'd cry if I lost it now.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/N8IKeSX3gl8xQ1S0nOzPVZ0TJYe3YnoNs3lQQ3vE.png

26,175 and counting.

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08 Nov 2012 10:37:37

Stupidly decided to read the first chapter. I say fuck way too many times in it. I can't wait to rewrite it.

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08 Nov 2012 12:13:40

Doesn't appear in my Google Docs anymore. Should be in the "Shared with Me" section shouldn't it?

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08 Nov 2012 12:36:53

I've taken it down. I've saved everyone's email addresses, but I'm writing a crucial part of the story at the moment which is broken up into two chapters. I'll probably have it done by this afternoon.

I mapped out the arc of the story about four o'clock this morning, I haven't been to sleep in a couple of days now. I think I've got the tone of the character down, but the part I read this morning, the first chapter, is pretty horrendous.

A question I do have for people who have read it: do they see the main character as being, in any way, likeable?

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I think he is likeable in an odd way. He knows that what he does and the actions he takes are generally stupid/wrong but he is stuck in a way doing what he is doing. I guess he's a loveable rogue.

When I read the first bit of the book it struck me as a good light read to take on holiday or something like that. Something that you can read a bit, put it down to go in the pool or whatever then resume fairly easily. Definitely a decent lads book. So far at least.

Will be interesting to see where the story goes & what happens.

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08 Nov 2012 12:58:55

By Fantastic | Permalink | On 08 November 2012 - 10:37 AM

Stupidly decided to read the first chapter. I say fuck way too many times in it. I can't wait to rewrite it.

Don't really remember this, but there are a couple of bits where you missed a word/the sentence doesn't really make sense, but this is all part of it. When you are powering through as you are, you cant afford to get caught up with relatively small things like this otherwise you will lose your train of thought.

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08 Nov 2012 13:09:18

Main character doesn't have to be likeable - I despise the lead character of Catcher in the Rye but I appreciate how good a book it is.

I'll PM you my email address so you can share it with me.

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08 Nov 2012 13:31:53

He doesn't need to be likeable, but he needs to have redeeming qualities otherwise the reader has no interest in rooting for them.

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08 Nov 2012 13:39:23

By Fantastic | Permalink | On 08 November 2012 - 13:31 PM

He doesn't need to be likeable, but he needs to have redeeming qualities otherwise the reader has no interest in rooting for them.

Interesting > Likeable

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08 Nov 2012 13:41:17

By The Platypus | Permalink | On 08 November 2012 - 13:39 PM

Interesting > Likeable

I really hate the guy in the story, but around the girl he's weird, kind of gay. I'm looking forward to chucking him down the shit pipe.

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08 Nov 2012 13:53:47

The whole relationship thing doesn't really fit in with how the character was set out in a way. I'm guessing you didn't originally plan for that to happen? He sort of seemed like the type of guy that fucks the chicks that are left in the bar at 3am not the type to pull a stunner. Still very intrigued to were you are taking it all mind.

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08 Nov 2012 13:56:19

I think relatable is what you need, the character could be a horrible person but if people can relate to some aspects of him then they'll be interested in his story and will probably find him likable to some extent.

Kinda like Walt from Breaking Bad or Tony Soprano, they aren't nice people if you look at it objectively but they have relatable aspects to them which make people care about them and how their stories unfold.

Particularly if you tell the story in the first person, I think being relatable is the key. I've only read the first link you posted up on here, but I thought through that much the character was relatable. Moments like where Seb first appears and he says something like 'what the fuck or you doing here?' but mentions he's doing that cover up that he actually cares, and the bit after about the troubles of making male friends. They're things I think plenty of people could apply to themselves and that honesty, I guess, makes you like the character.

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08 Nov 2012 14:03:52

By DB | Permalink | On 08 November 2012 - 13:53 PM

The whole relationship thing doesn't really fit in with how the character was set out in a way. I'm guessing you didn't originally plan for that to happen? He sort of seemed like the type of guy that fucks the chicks that are left in the bar at 3am not the type to pull a stunner. Still very intrigued to were you are taking it all mind.

Well yeah, there's a truth there. He is what he is, but if it was just a book about a guy who bangs chicks and never learns anything it wouldn't make for a good story.

So I figured the best thing to do, given that he is secure and insecure to the extreme, is to introduce someone who he doesn't understand how to deal with. To challenge him. I spent a good few hours writing chapter 15, which I've just emailed to everyone, from about one in the morning until seven this morning. Making sure the process gives him flexibility to show off the aspects of his personality.

The key is the conversation with Smile where he discusses how he's never had sex sober or ever had a girlfriend. When those words came out I knew I had to write that scenario in. Thank god I did because it's giving the story purpose now.

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08 Nov 2012 14:19:41

Also, just seen how fucked up the spacing on chapters is. It's perfectly aligned on word, with each chapter starting on a new page. Don't know why Drive doesn't like it. Sorry.

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08 Nov 2012 14:51:38

Really liking it so far. Although I have only read to chapter 9, I'll fire ya my email addy soonish.

Sorry to be pedantic but I found a plot hole, the mother rings the character at his house and asks where he is, he later explains at the lunch that he has lost his mobile. Now I don't ring someones house number and ask where they are so FIX THAT SHIT.......

Nah great story so far and oddly enough is pretty much my life the last 8 months.

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