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Crane
Slashman X
SpinSwimScream
iirc the girl didn't claim she got raped and actually had no idea she had done anything with Evans. It was the police that decided on the rape charge after the fact upon finding out what had happened. But yeah overall i agree with terriersmad.
He's shown little remorse, the behaviour of his supporters has been disgusting and the girlfriends family are scum. No doubt he will sign with someone eventually but if I certainly believe that he shouldn't be playing professional football, the vast majority of careers wouldn't re-hire a rapist so why should football be any different.
Sam
An incredibly insincere apology.
Jason
The main question here is, why wasn't it used?
Jason
Statement just released.
VP.
Vercoe
Just to come back to this, although I don't really want to because, as you can imagine I've seen this discussion done to death on multiple occasions, but there was a lot of media outcry when Luke a) started playing professionally again and then b) when he re-signed with us, mostly from the Sun it has to be said.
Edit: I'd also like to add that neither of the children were wearing seatbelts at the time, not that it matters now of course. nor should it resolve Luke of any blame whatsoever, but if they were wearing seatbelts, like their father, they would (more than likely) have lived, like their father.
RhylFCKiko
Number 1
Oh fuck off.
Sam
He has to go.
El-chambo
When it comes to facts about both cases the main problem here as to be Luke McCormick returned to football were it looks very much like Ched Evans will not at least until he has severed his sentence if at all.
Also you may be able to correct me but I do not think any sponsor's of both Oxford or Plymouth pull out of the club due to Luke signing.
So do the sponsor's see rape as a worse crime than killing the brother's.
Both should be allowed to continue there career's once they have served there time.
Slashman X
It's almost like you guys don't realise he still has an appeal pending and saying "Sorry I raped you" is likely going to affect the outcome of that appeal. Jesus Christ. Whether you believe he did it or not, apologising for the actual incident would fuck him up from a legal perspective, which he fucking mentioned in the statement. He's apologising for the whole hate mob that forced the woman to change name etc and saying he condemns that, which is exactly what everyone expected him to do and the 'right' thing to do at the current moment. People spouting shite earlier about "He forced her to change name, move away etc, he should feel bad about that", he does that and now people say "Such a cop out apology, should apologise for raping her whilst his appeal is still going on". It's a "damned if you do..." scenario.
He honestly hasn't done anything anyone else wouldn't do in the exact same scenario
Crane
He comes across as a knob for this statement because it's only because a club pulls out of signing him. Why couldn't he have said this before, and not just bunging it in with whinge about how he can't get a job?
Slashman X
Some people here said he should apologise for the "witchhunt" and that he instigated it.
On legal advice he was told not to say anything that could affect his appeal, he says that in his statement. He made the statement because people took his lack of statement/apology as arrogance, which he also said in his statement and makes sense. If he released that statement as soon as he left prison people would still say "He's just doing it to get a job"
Number 1
Meanwhile, Greg Dyke has said the FA doesn't feel the need to intervene in this case. Which is not exactly very helpful.
Slashman X
Ninja
1. It definitely is because of mob rule, otherwise he'd probably be a Sheffield United player now, if not an Oldham one.
2. That's literally Gordon Taylor's job.
Sam
Vercoe
You're right, there wasn't this much media or public outcry over Luke's return to football but, for my money, it's because he kept his head down and tries to avoid the media spotlight where he can whereas Evans obviously doesn't (but then, if he believes he's innocent then why should he? He'd just better hope he wins his appeal). Maybe saying Evans isn't trying to avoid media spotlight is the wrong phrasing but because of his appeal I suppose he's automatically getting more exposure.
Where Oxford is concerned, I couldn't tell you whether or not any sponsors had adverse reactions, although he was only ever brought in as a short term replacement as their two main 'keepers were injured (FWIW he had signed on to play for local non-league side Truro in Cornwall before Oxford approached him), so maybe that worked in his favour? As far as I know Argyle never had any threats of sponsors pulling out when Luke returned either.
I wouldn't say that the sponsors place rape higher than the death of two young boys, I would play devil's advocate and say that perhaps the fact that, if guilty, there's an admission of intent on Evans' part wherein he intended to have sex with the girl in the state she was in whereas Luke never intended to crash into anyone (not that it matters now) so maybe that will play on the sponsors' minds?
I would also point out that Lee Hughes returned to football with arguably less uproar (I think, my memory isn't great) after he killed somebody with intent to harm (I believe).
It's an extremely tricky situation that there can't really be one rule set in stone for in my mind.
Carroll.
Guess the point I'm trying to make before I get a barrage of abuse is that while yeah he hasn't served his time exactly, let the guy get back to life. He didn't go out that night to rape a girl, the alcohol didn't make him physically force himself on her, he basically didn't see the fact she was so drunk (that she could walk normally, get her pizza etc.)
Franck
Because no man would ever wish to perform oral sex on a woman by his own will.
Carroll.
Franck
VP.
Shola
Andy Cav
His high-profile position is completely inciting "mob rule". It has done no favours for the alleged victim, it has done no favours for his re-integration into society and it has done no good for anybody who has commented on it from a public perspective. Oldham wanted to sign a professional footballer who would improve their side, due to this decision and the personal profile of the target, members of the club's staff received abuse and death threats and one has been forced to tender his resignation. How are death threats directed at innocent parties any better than anything Ched Evans has or hasn't done since leaving prison? Gordon Taylor referenced the difference in what was presented at the time to the factual truth of the Hillsborough tragedy; he in no way suggested Evans' innocence, just that his protestations of innocence could still be ruled correct.
The truth is that both of these incidents were without malice and were cases of poor judgement that the media and the mob-rule reaction has caused the results of both to be blown way, way, way out of proportion.
Ched Evans maintains his innocence and during his appeal process would be, rightly, advised to keep quiet and not (in his mind) wrongly implicate himself. The conviction is not in any way cut and dried, hence the website. Drink was involved, drugs were involved and someone who had previously similar incidents with people of similar sporting profile. The accused, whilst in a relationship, had sex with a clearly intoxicated woman in a pre-booked hotel room, after and in the company of his friend who had done the same. What is entirely clear, is that Ched Evans did not have sex with a woman who said no, there was no force or violence involved; there is simply a very, very grey area over whether consent could be made and whether the woman could remember more than she claims and is taking advantage of a situation she didn't pursue,
Carroll.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2149462/Brian-Banks-One-time-football-star-rape-charge-dismissed-years-prison-accuser-contacts-Facebook-say-happened.html
Jason