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kingrobbo
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One of the main issues with the old system was the repetitiveness. Each match you play feel unique and exciting just in virtue of the very nature of a match. Transfers can sometimes feel a bit repetitive but they come with their own excitement of choosing and hopefully signing an awesome player. But "interactions" feel repetitive because they simply are, there's nothing to make them unique or exciting. Is it possible to make them more exciting? Probably not, you're never going to be able to replicate the thrill of a match or a transfer. Is it possible to make them more unique? Yes, simply by having more variations of questions and answers. That variation can come in two ways, it can be two sentences that differ but under the hood have the same affect e.g. "I have no interest in signing Wayne Rooney" vs "Wayne Rooney is not one of our transfer targets" this would perhaps make it feel a little less repetitive but not achieve that much. Or we can get more questions. I don't know how many unique questions you can receive in a press conference at the moment, but lets say its 50, if instead it was 5000 that would go a long way to making the game more interesting.
How difficult would it be to come up with 5000 questions? Probably not that hard. How hard would it be to code 5000 questions to accurately reflect whats happening in the game? Probably very time consuming.
Is that what SI have done? Unfortunately not.
What we've received instead is "Gestures" such as standing with arms folded. Of course these do add a degree of uniqueness compared to FM20, but assuming they're limited to less than 50 unique gestures rather than thousands they're going to get repetitive very quickly in the same way as the interactions are already and that's disappointing.
I said at the beginning that i'm cautiously optimistic. The reason to be optimistic is because it's clear to everyone, both fans and SI, that the repetitiveness of interactions is a big problem in FM and the fact that they've attempted to address it means it should at least be an improvement on previous iterations even if it's not yet perfect.
I think the biggest problem with interactions is that they are so frequent. If you play 50 games a season that means you need to do 50 pre match press conferences, 50 pre match team talks, 50 half time team talks, 50 post match team talks and 50 post match press conferences. That's 250 "interactions" before we even begin accounting for tunnel questions, random questions from the media, team meetings and individual player chats.
Playing matches is the fun part and the interactions is the less fun part and yet we're doing interactions far more often.
Of course it's realistic to have all these press conferences and interactions, but it's not realistic to have them unabated throughout the week without anything in between. If Spurs play two matches on two Saturdays, on Tuesday and Wednesday Jose Mourinho is at the training ground watching over his players, playing mini matches, designing schedules and tactics for his next match. This isn't reflected in FM, instead between Sunday to Friday we're simply clicking through press conferences, journalist questions and player chats waiting to get to next Saturday. If we can't accurately reflect the full life of a manager, accurately reflecting just one aspect of it is going to lead to problems.
There are two solutions to this problem (1) to have more events and tasks besides interactions to break up the interactions. But this would spread the match days and transfers out even further apart and risk making the game incredibly dull. Or we have option (2) we reduce the number of interactions. It may not be realistic, but it would be an improvement.
But you can't announce that as a feature can you? It would be a difficult sell to the SI marketing team that's for sure.
Do you know what I would have loved as a headline feature this year instead?
New Interaction Level Setting
This year in FM 21 you can now tailor you're in game experience by choosing how often you'll be prompted for interactions with the press, your players, your fans and the board via a new "Interaction Level" setting in the in game preferences. You'll have four options "Realistic", "High", "Medium" and "Low" and the setting you choose won't affect the performance of your team, only your enjoyment of the game.©Footygamer
How cool would that have been?
kingrobbo
Titan89
fm didn't really improve since 2 years. all the new features are a big joke it's technically the same game as fm20. they should improve the transfers, market value of players and the tactics. its been now the same game since years. also they should improve the youth teams features in general.
kingrobbo
YEP agreed its just superfluous nonsense added, mostly ‘extra features’ that basically are not needed at all and are just to make users purchase the ‘new’ version
The game IMO hasnt moved on for sometime and I have only just started my first save in FM21 and the crossing bug is just utter crap
Heard old Miles in an interview going back 3+ years ago that the match engine would be like FIFA soon and that the plan was to have it so realistic that it would be like watching a real game….. Bazinga LOL
Titan89
What I don't understand is nobody I know likes to watch his games in 3D. The game is a manager simulation not FIFA. They don't even have the budget to create a realistic 3D game animation that can compete with FIFA OR PES. The core game features are great but if they really want to step to the next level they should go more in detail with the existing features. I would like to have more impact in creating/building an football facility (training ground like in Anstoss 3 etc). Also it would be much better and realistic if the football agents would have more impact; certain characters like Raiola & Zahavi, demanding transfer, more playing time etc. Agents are the most powerful actors in football and they have zero impact in FM. These features MUST be improved; scouting, transfers ai of the computer, fans (disliking you or your style of play), impact in selling merchandise or having more influence in creating new sources of income, going on a training camp in china has no impact to the jerseys sold etc. it just sucks seeing the new trailer and its basically the same.
kingrobbo
The big issue is no competitor!! if there was another product then you would see improvement, as it is the game gets put out in November with so many bugs and we all know isnt a product until the following February they can get away with it as there is no competition
Titan89
Thats true no manager competitor out there !!! FM developer should involve the fans much more. Hopefully EA will comeback with an manger game …
kingrobbo
many of us tried engaging with SI over the years particularly with the editor they didnt give a damn there were long time excellent editors with detailed knowledge of the product who have offered to help/beta test etc and get a better product out for general use…. they are not interested
the release of the bugged to hell FM21 version frankly was embarrassing - also the support I reported 6 bugs in the editor 4 remain unanswered going back 10 months-appalling
Titan89
that's bad for such a small developer company. do you know if they sold more fm21 versions than the year before? I didnt buy fm21 because its the same damn game. I wont buy it this year as well. after buying every game from 2016-2020 I stopped supporting them……
kingrobbo
I certainly wont be getting the beta, I may well not bother at all, regarding sales I have no idea