Benefits Advice

I'm willing to guess that Jay. fell into a job as soon as he left college/school

I'm willing to bet he hasn't left college/school.

Then you make very bad decisions.

You wouldn't be far wrong. I know a guy who worked for PC World, he got me into the call center at Know How, which wasn't called Know How then, it was actually a company that PC World/Currys hired to handle all there calls, Capita International, which was then sold onto DSGI before PC World/Currys bought it back. Been there through it all, in todays world, its now what you know, its who you know. Sad but true.

GCSE/A-Level/Degree's however good they are, don't guarantee you a job.

I'm 23.

I'm 23.

And your advice is not to take a part-time job because there's loads of full-time jobs out there.

No, but after travel costs to/from work, you'll not be picking £56 per week, well at least i wouldn't, you'd be even worse off if you drive, infact you couldn't manage to run a car on £56 per week.

I'm sorry that my life is more important, this is how £56 would do me per week, i pay £390 per month in rent, i also pay £60-£80 a month in Gas/Electric (this is all without food remember.), if i was to work 64 hours a month for only, £225 per month, my bus fair to get to the job, would cost me £11 per week, that's already £44 taken out of my monthly wage, leaving me with £180, where would i live? Even being on JSA is wouldn't be very good, but I'd be saving £44 a month, on travel costs.

I know there is housing benefits etc, but if you work 16 hours your benefit is greatly reduced to what it'd be if you worked 0 hours.

Hence my reasoning, working part time for 16 hours a week, would be more unbeneficial than not working.

Unless of course he walks to work

No, but after travel costs to/from work, you'll not be picking £56 per week, well at least i wouldn't, you'd be even worse off if you drive, infact you couldn't manage to run a car on £56 per week.

I'm sorry that my welfare/living is more important, this is how £56 would do me per week, i pay £390 per month in rent, i also pay £60-£80 a month in Gas/Electric (this is all without food remember.), if i was to work 64 hours a month for only, £225 per month, my bus fair to get to the job, would cost me £11 per week, that's already £44 taken out of my monthly wage, leaving me with £180, where would i live? Even being on JSA is wouldn't be very good, but I'd be saving £44 a month, on travel costs.

I know there is housing benefits etc, but if you work 16 hours your benefit is greatly reduced to what it'd be if you worked 0 hours.

Hence my reasoning, working part time for 16 hours a week, would be more unbeneficial than not working and still getting the same amount.

If you're on JSA earning 56 quid a week you're not going to live in an apartment costing 470 quid a month after bills are you?

Working Part-Time would give you experience, experience which would be helpful in finding a full time job. Who do you think I would rather hire, someone who has been on JSA for 2 months, or someone who has been working? If you proved yourself working part time then there's more chance you would be offered more hours/a full time role.

So your saying, if your on JSA you can't live on your own? I pay £390 in rent, for a 2 bedroom, now that's fairly cheap as most peak at £450-£500 for a 2 bed.. 2million people claim JSA because there aren't enough jobs out there for people, Im sure a lot of them live on there own, struggling to make ends meet, thats how it is in the UK.

I know of plenty of foreign persons that have come to the UK from whatever country and got a job almost instantly, without experience, that's the UK for you again, that's where the problem lies, there are thousands upon thousands of people that are genuinely seeking work, like the OP, but they are realistic, whats the point? Working 16 hours per week, getting £56 a week, when you could be doing the same as people that are not even bothered about finding a job, and still getting that £56.

I know of plenty of foreign persons that have come to the UK from whatever country and got a job almost instantly, without experience, that's the UK for you again, that's where the problem lies, there are thousands upon thousands of people that are genuinely seeking work, like the OP, but they are realistic, whats the point? Working 16 hours per week, getting £56 a week, when you could be doing the same as people that are not even bothered about finding a job, and still getting that £56.

The reason foreigners get work is because they'll apply everywhere and do anything. Brits won't do the shit jobs foreigners do and think they're better than McDonalds, Cleaning etc. Employers don't purposely hire foreigners over Brits btw.

And no, if you don't have a job of course you shouldn't be living in a 2 bedroom apartment costing 470 a month. You live within your means. If you can't afford it you go somewhere where you can afford it. That's common sense.

And for everyone that keeps saying there are no jobs in the UK. Fuck off. There's hundreds of thousands of jobs. Just google 'jobs' and you'll see tonnes of job sites with thousands of jobs. A hell of a lot of people are on JSA because they're lazy, not because they can't get a job.

Because it's about progression. Working will get you experience, which in turn will give you the chance to get better jobs. People just expect to fall into a brilliant job without working for it.

Show me a place where you can live for £56 per week, please. Then i will rest my case.

I wholeheartedly, fully 1000000% agree with you on this, however there are another half of them people that actually do want a job but genuinely cannot find one, and i know that, because my friend is in the same boat, hes got all his degrees, awards etc in care work, but cannot find a job in that sector.

The reason foreigners get work is because they'll apply everywhere and do anything. Brits won't do the sit jobs foreigners do and think they're better than McDonalds, Cleaning etc. Employers don't purposely hire foreigners over Brits btw.

Because it's about progression. Working will get you experience, which in turn will give you the chance to get better jobs. People just expect to fall into a brilliant job without working for it.

The thing is like... take me right. After I left uni, I had some fairly serious health problems. I lost about 8 months of my life and I couldn't work in that time. After that, I'd be applying for jobs and I'd get a few interviews. I'd interview well but I'd lost the job to some 17 year old because he had a job stacking shelves at the Co-op. The problem isn't that there aren't jobs, it's that there's too many people applying for each one. But if you keep trying, eventually you'll find one like I did. In the meantime, the best thing you can do is get any scrap of experience you can so you can tell people what you do because there's nothing worse than having a gap in your CV that you can't really explain.