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By BR. | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 13:42 PM
What a sad little man. I could maybe understand one or two tweets as a joke but not all them, as well as fake pictures.


None of the pictures are fake
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Why do people assume we'd sell Rooney for that sort of money?

Also this transfer window is nuts. It's like everyone decided to take acid and just see what players they've got in September.
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I'd love to see Joe Kinnear take acid and pick his transfer targets from there.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 12:04 PM
Also the Cazorla rumours are being mentioned by a few others, if he's homesick and wants to go back to Spain I guess they make sense, but that's a huge loss for Arsenal.

Yeah, it's complete bullshit. The rumour stems from some Spanish radio station and John Cross - who's out in Asia with us at the moment - has confirmed that the club have completely denied any possibility of a move.
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By om4ever | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 13:23 PM
Well, at least it's official now, the BBC is just as shit as a source as the Daily Mail.


Definitely not true.
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I don't think you can trust any online news website, once one of them runs with a big story (bullshit or not) all the others jump straight in and copy it to try and grab some of the page views.
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By AFC | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 14:18 PM
I don't think you can trust any online news website, once one of them runs with a big story (bullshit or not) all the others jump straight in and copy it to try and grab some of the page views.


No they don't.

At worst you'll get them all reporting the original report. So and so understands... etc...

Today's one had nothing to do with that though, someone at United leaked the story.
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By Eric Portapotty | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 14:02 PM
I'd love to see Joe Kinnear take acid and pick his transfer targets from there.


Not forgetting some dubstep in there too
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Also means nothings going to happen until tomorrow sometime.
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By Eric Portapotty | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 14:02 PM
I'd love to see Joe Kinnear take acid and pick his transfer targets from there.


He might make off the wall signings such as Ryan Taylor, Kevin Nolan and Peter Lovenkrands. The crazy maverick.
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Looks like Rooney is Chelsea's only remaining target, which means he's going to Chelsea
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to embed tweets just use the [media] tags
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I can only see United wanting at least 15m plus Mata. At that price you'd figure it was a done deal
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Chelsea is interested in this player, made a bid and what we did we did officially,' Mourinho said.

'Now we have nothing more to say, we want the player, we made the bid and now it is up to Man United.

'We don't want to make public the bid but it is just a certain amount of money and it doesn't involve players or players in the possibility of negotiation. No Juan Mata, no David Luiz.'
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He'll move and I reckon it will be a knockdown price. Maybe £25m
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By Fantastic | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 18:08 PM
He'll move and I reckon it will be a knockdown price. Maybe £25m

Why on earth would we sell Chelsea Rooney for £25m?

We'd rather let him rot and let them have an overweight Rooney in 2 years time then selling cheaply to a direct rival (and in truth he'll have no choice not to give his all given that its a World Cup year.

If Chelsea want him it will cost them a lot, Torres money at least I would expect.

If he goes abroad that's a different story.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 22:21 PM
Why on earth would we sell Chelsea Rooney for £25m?

We'd rather let him rot and let them have an overweight Rooney in 2 years time then selling cheaply to a direct rival (and in truth he'll have no choice not to give his all given that its a World Cup year.

If Chelsea want him it will cost them a lot, Torres money at least I would expect.

If he goes abroad that's a different story.


If United were to sell him, I can't see many better players to ask for in exchange than Mata.
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By Blaze | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 22:45 PM
If United were to sell him, I can't see many better players to ask for in exchange than Mata.

Yeah, if they would actually include him in a deal we'd take it I think.
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Stop fucking talking about Mata.
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The Mirror reporting United making a £60M for Bale, and Sky Italy saying they've contacted Madrid for Modric.

And apparently Barca want £31M for Fabregas, however he won't push for a move.
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By The Platypus | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 23:18 PM
Stop fucking talking about Mata.


Juan point too many
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Are City planning on getting Negredo instead of Jovetic, or do they want both?
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 03:06 AM
Are City planning on getting Negredo instead of Jovetic, or do they want both?

Both. Depending on how you look at it, Jovetic is either Tevez' replacement or the alternative to Isco. Negredo's replacing Balotelli.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 07:21 AM
Why on earth would we sell Chelsea Rooney for £25m?

We'd rather let him rot and let them have an overweight Rooney in 2 years time then selling cheaply to a direct rival (and in truth he'll have no choice not to give his all given that its a World Cup year.

If Chelsea want him it will cost them a lot, Torres money at least I would expect.

If he goes abroad that's a different story.

Why would Chelsea (or anyone else for that matter) want Rooney in 2 years time if he's been left to simply rot?

You're not going to get "Torres money" from Chelsea, nor anyone else. Rooney's come off the back of an average couple of seasons, it's known he wants out, and Moyes hasn't helped the cause with his comments on how he'll be used. If Rooney slaps in a written transfer request United will sell for a figure around the £20-25 million mark. He's definitely not worth any more, nor are United really in any position to try to get more either.

It will go two ways;
Rooney is sold to Chelsea. Or United hold onto a player who has no desire to remain, is unhappy and will continue to cost United millions to keep in wages. All while the possibility of causing issues within.

I can't see any of the top sides aboard wanting him or having room to fit him in.
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By Verse | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 08:14 AM
Why would Chelsea (or anyone else for that matter) want Rooney in 2 years time if he's been left to simply rot?

You're not going to get "Torres money" from Chelsea, nor anyone else. Rooney's come off the back of an average couple of seasons, it's known he wants out, and Moyes hasn't helped the cause with his comments on how he'll be used. If Rooney slaps in a written transfer request United will sell for a figure around the £20-25 million mark. He's definitely not worth any more, nor are United really in any position to try to get more either.

It will go two ways;
Rooney is sold to Chelsea. Or United hold onto a player who has no desire to remain, is unhappy and will continue to cost United millions to keep in wages. All while the possibility of causing issues within.

I can't see any of the top sides aboard wanting him or having room to fit him in.


That's when his contract expires.

We are absolutely whatsoever never in a million years going to sell to a title rival on the cheap, there is no reason for us to do it. We can afford to let him sit around and do nothing and in all likelihood are aware that he has to play to his best next season otherwise he will risk his place in Rio. We'd much rather take a financial hit then strengthen you for no reason whatsoever. A transfer request changes nothing, we all know the club want him to put one in and are under no obligation to sell when he does unless the offer values their valuation (FWIW the rejected bid yesterday has been rumoured at being £27m, so claims of Rooney for £25m are vastly optimistic).

Also Moyes' comments were in no way bad, and if you read them you can see they've been misreported.

Rooney's had ONE average season, and if any club can get him fit and motivated he's one of the best strikers in the league.

I've no idea why Rooney is so lowly rated, probably because United fans want rid of him (for non footballing reasons) but if Chelsea want to sign him they have to be prepared to break the bank.
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By Verse | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 08:14 AM
Rooney's come off the back of an average couple of seasons


Combined goals + assists in the PL -

2012/13 - 23, only Mata, Cazorla (one more), Walcott, Bale, Suarez and RVP had more in a season where it is regarded he wasn't playing his best and was in and out of the side (and in multiple positions).
2011/12 - 32, only Aguero (one more) and RVP had more. He also got 34 goals in all competitions.
2010/11 - 22, highest was 27
2009/10 - 31, behind only Lampard and Drogba. He also got 34 goals in all competitions.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 17:38 PM
That's when his contract expires.

We are absolutely whatsoever never in a million years going to sell to a title rival on the cheap, there is no reason for us to do it. We can afford to let him sit around and do nothing and in all likelihood are aware that he has to play to his best next season otherwise he will risk his place in Rio. We'd much rather take a financial hit then strengthen you for no reason whatsoever.

Also Moyes' comments were in no way bad, and if you read them you can see they've been misreported.

Rooney's had ONE average season, and if any club can get him fit and motivated he's one of the best strikers in the league.

I've no idea why Rooney is so lowly rated, probably because United fans want rid of him (for non footballing reasons) but if Chelsea want to sign him they have to be prepared to break the bank.

I understand that's when his contract expires. I was more inclining the point of who would want Rooney in 2 years time if he's been left to rot? Chelsea sure as hell wouldn't (I'd hope).

£20-25 million isn't cheap. He's certainly not worth £30m+ in the current climate, put it that way. Not off the back of an average season, doubts over fitness, and in a years time could be signed even cheaper with only 12 months remaining on his contract. Add in the public fact he wants out, United don't really have a lot of leverage in this instance as they might think. Sure, United can keep him. Which they can afford to do financially. But that can cause some serious disruption within the squad and would most likely mean they'd receive even less later on for him. Rooney's place in Rio will be safe, irrespective if he plays much or not. He's lucky that England lack any sort of real depth and quality up front, so I can't see him being left behind.

Rooney isn't lowly rated, he's certainly a quality player when he's fit and firing, no doubt. The issue is that 2 of his past 3 seasons he's under performed. I'd like to think Chelsea would recognise the situation on hand and not offer anything more than around £25-£27 million to secure him. If United don't bite, so be it. Another 12 months time more options might be available beyond Rooney, and he'll be cheaper once again this time next year.

It will simply come down to if United and Moyes are willing to hold onto a player who doesn't want to remain and are prepared to handle any potential fallout that can possible arise from that.
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By Verse | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 08:14 AM
You're not going to get "Torres money" from Chelsea, nor anyone else. Rooney's come off the back of an average couple of seasons, it's known he wants out, and Moyes hasn't helped the cause with his comments on how he'll be used. If Rooney slaps in a written transfer request United will sell for a figure around the £20-25 million mark. He's definitely not worth any more, nor are United really in any position to try to get more either.


"I want to be able to play the two of them" - Moyes

What a horrible thing to say, no wonder Rooney's angry and confused.

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