English Premier League 2012/2013

How is what Evans did not on par? Just because he's not caught the player? So it's okay to jump in two footed off the ground if you don't catch the other player now is it?

No, but it doesn't exactly make it just as bad.

Shelvey's tackle is far more wild, far more dangerous and far further over the top than Evans'.

I really don't doubt there's much difference between Van Persie's and Evans' tackles, and Evans almost certainly wouldn't have escaped without a booking without Shelvey's tackle upstaging it almost.

I think in situations like these it's always wise for the referee to deal with the most serious incident primarily, I think it's hard to deny that Shelvey's is the worst of the two tackles made for the ball so the correct decision was to send him off, any additional punishment for Evans' be it a red card, a yellow or no further action should be dealt with as a secondary consideration.

I genuinely think there is only one tackle that we saw yesterday that endangered a player's safety and two that were reckless.

Erm no. Shelvey is going in one footed, and granted he lunges I'd say that's less dangerous than diving two feet in. Not going to bother explaining further as I already have and each side is going to have a different view.

I really don't think you can call Evans tackle anymore two footed than Shelvey's watch this:



Both players both feet leave the ground, Evans lands his left foot wide of the ball in no danger to Shelvey and Shelvey makes his lunge with his foot coming round eventually in a scissor movement. Neither of the players use the extra foot in any meaningful attempt to win the ball.

I think it's hard to argue with any of these points.
1. Shelvey makes greater contact with Evans than Evans with Shelvey
2. Shelvey throws himself harder into the lunge than Evans
3. Shelvey makes contact with the ball only after Evans kicks it into him
4. Evans' tackle is off the ground, but no higher than the height of the ball. Shelvey comes over the top of it.

If Shelvey had tackled normally I don't think he was posed any great danger by the tackle that Evans had made. That doesn't make Evans tackle a good one, but if he had made a better tackle he still would have been caught half way up the shin by a tackle thats made minimal contact with the ball and that is why Shelvey was the player that walked.

I really don't think you can call Evans tackle anymore two footed than Shelvey's watch this:

If Shelvey would of reacted the same as Evans, he wouldn't of been sent off.

It's about time we had some 50/50 decisions go our way at Anfield.

Van Persie's yesterday wasn't great either. Personally I think a yellow was probably enough but you've seen people sent off for similar, like Gerrard at OT last year (although that one was probably worse).

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You had a 50/50 and 99('Pool's way) given to you in one game.

You absolutely can. Evans goes in with two at the ball, Shelvey doesn't.

I'll admit that Shelvey deserved to get sent off, but its ludicrous that Evans didn't get anything for his. That's why I'm annoyed.

Don't understand that bit?

I just wished he would've given Shelvey a troll face.

Aye, he done quite a few, wtf was he chatting?

What are you talking about? Shelvey's is not two footed. Evans' is, or at least a lot more two footed than Shelvey's.

But anyway. We'll be back

Referee Mark Halsey has made a complaint to Greater Manchester Police about insulting tweets directed at him.

Tweets sent after Manchester United's 2-1 win at Liverpool on Sunday referred to the 51-year-old's treatment for throat cancer in 2009.

Halsey drew criticism from Reds manager Brendan Rodgers after sending off Jonjo Shelvey for a first-half tackle.

Halsey told BBC Sport: "I can confirm that my family have made a complaint to the police."

He added: "I will be speaking to the police on Wednesday after I have returned from refereeing Southampton v Sheffield Wednesday."

Rodgers was angry after Halsey also awarded Manchester United a late penalty, which Robin van Persie converted.

"We could control our players' performance but what we can't control is decisions by the referee," Rodgers said.

Some Liverpool fans later took to Twitter to criticise Halsey's decisions, making reference to him dying of cancer.

The abuse was condemned by the match officials' organisation, Professional Game Match Officials Limited.

One of the abusive messages came from an account named @johnwareing1 and read: "I hope Mark Halsey gets cancer again and dies". Another, from @lfcjohn259, said: "Mark Halsey shouldve died of cancer", before being deleted. Both accounts have since been removed.

What assholes some Liverpool fans can be. So you got fucked over by the refs, everyone does at least once, just suck it up and move on.