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Slashman X
The Platypus
Carroll.
The Platypus
.verse
I'm genuinely perplexed with the intentions of your comment?
On the game though, defensive errors killed us in the end and Atletico made the most of them. Beyond that, neither side really did much else in the final third. Can't say I see the fuss in Diego Costa either. He looked rather average across both legs. All he seemed to do was constantly give away fouls and sook.
Shall be an interesting final nonetheless.
Vercoe
Eric Portapotty
Probably the argument you had with him post-Moyes.
Ninja
It's just normally quite funny to see you defend Chelsea all the time.
Ninja
It's just normally quite funny to see you defend Chelsea all the time.
.verse
"All the time" is a little rich. I'll defend the club I support when I feel it's just, otherwise I'll equally lament them if required too.
I know how easy of a target Chelsea are on these forums, so I tend to not bother these days and use my time doing something more productive.
Eric Portapotty
The big clubs get similar amounts of shit on here imo, I mean for Arsenal you can just view the previous page.
.verse
It's a different degree of shit though.
End of the day, it's football, it's banter and it's usually coming from some sort of plonker (aka Carroll). I'll happy partake in genuine discussion, just not some of the tripe conjured up by some (Carroll, again).
We'll leave it at that though and keep the thread on topic.
Carroll.
Slashman X
Carroll.
Slashman X
Carroll.
Based Jorge
Genius.
Eric Portapotty
You forget that he recouped quite a bit of that cash with player sales, and his net spend is quite a long way off 80 million.
In fact I think our net spend was higher than theirs? For once anyway.
.verse
Just to clarify how poorly constructed your post is.
Money has been spent to rebuild the side. This was something that was needed and will continue to be done next season to add the remaining pieces we're still missing. A large portion of what was spent was also recovered with the sale of both Mata and De Bruyne
We play the brand of football we do because that's what works best with the players we have on hand. We lack quality up front and in midfield, while the sides strength lies in its defence. Our best attacking options are those who play out in the advance midfield/wide positions, due to their pace. So naturally, a counter-attacking system is the best one to be implemented. You can't put square pegs in round holes, etc.
Slashman X
.verse
On an overall scale we do, half the reason why Luiz has moved into midfield during the second half of the season.
Lampard is 35 and has naturally declined.
Matic, though quality, has only been here for half the season and not eligible for CL. Is our best midfielder.
Ramires, while a decent player at times he lacks the polish and technique to really influence games. Also has had his worst season to date.
Van Ginkel has been out all season.
Mikel has slipped down the pecking order since Matic arrived
Out of all of our options the majority are defensive players, which hinders us a lot. We really lack that Modric like sort of player that can collect the ball in midfield and move it on, but also has the creativity to his game to create. Matic joining has helped but he's basically covering two positions; the holding role, and that of the ball playing creative type. Outside of a striker you'll find most Chelsea fans will say we need some creative midfield quality.
Edit: spelling.
Jason
Carroll.
Dan
VP.
So you actually believe Wenger to be a specialist in failure?
As much as he has pissed me off over the last few years, i do also realise how hard, in fact almost impossible it is to compete with clubs that spend an almost unlimited amount of money every season. Our net spend since 2003 is around £18m i believe, but we have still 'competed' fairly well in all competitions though of course not actually won anything in 8 years. Chelsea and City's net spend is over £500m in the same period, while Utd's is just over £200m and Liverpool just under. So you would certainly expect those clubs to be at the top every single season.
We're actually placed 17th in the current Prem table by net spend since 2003, yet have every season been in the top 4 and done fairly well in the CL. Now to me that isn't exactly failure.
As for that list of trophies won by Mourniho its obviously very impressive, but when you're managing one of the top 2 sides in the league (3 i guess when starting at Chelsea) and spending millions of £'s each season its not really surprising you're being successful is it?
Ninja
Lets use wages, because its far more fun.
Arsenal have the 4th highest wage bill, in the league, and consistently finish 4th.
How odd.
Based Jorge
We only spend that much in wages cause Wenger believes in a 'socialism type wage structure'. Showers of shite like Denilson, Djourou, Squillaci were all on around 60k pw.
VP.
Wasn't it you, or certainly someone recently claiming that clubs don't reveal their full wage bills?
And also by your way of thinking, we're bang on where we should so Wenger isn't actually failing...
Ninja
Slashman I think. Maybe. I don't know.
Maybe, but the failure is never failing to go beyond that, the same wage theory would tell you that United should be finishing second or third, but yet we've won the league more than anyone. The failure even to win a solitary FA Cup or Carling Cup in that 8 year period is the damning one.