.verse
12 years ago
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Oscar, Hazard, Mata, De Bruyne, Schurrle, Moses and Willian fighting for 3 places.

Add to that Lampard, Mikel, Essien, Ramires, van Ginkel and Chalobah fighting for 2 places.

Someone's gotta go.

Mikel is the most likely to be sold out. Though wouldn't rule out him being loaned to Gala either.



Reckon the plan might be to drop De Bruyne (possibly Oscar as well) back and develop them as deeper midfielders, Mikel to leave, as well. It's still over kill, though.

Whatever happened to Romeu as well? He started off decently.

Oscar will play deeper, as will De Bruyne. Both already have as it is, particularly Oscar.

I think Oscar will spend a lot more time as regular central midfielder alongside the holding player. I think he's seen as a more long term replacement for Lampard's role.

As for Romeu, he started well and then dipped off. Then did his knee and has been sent to Valenica on loan. He needs games to refine his own game, which would have been limited here. He still has a chance but he's going to need to improve some key aspects if he's to hold a regular position in the future.
Sam
17 years ago
1 year ago
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Meaningless rumours on Twitter saying Woodward is in Dortmund.

Getting me over excited about Gundogan, he would be such a great signing for us.

But realistically we'll probably just get Fellaini.
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
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Love the idea that after failing to get Fabregas Woodward's just gone 'right, who would actually be harder to sign than Fabregas?'
Sam
17 years ago
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Knowing how bad our transfer window has been he's probably gone to Germany for another sponsor deal.
King Luis
17 years ago
2 months ago
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You haven't really needed to bring players in really though, obviously it'd have been nice to bring a few new faces in and some back up players but your pretty strong as things stand. Only worry for you is if RVP gets injured i suppose, but if the first games anything to go by Wellbeck will be on form this year.
Ninja
14 years ago
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You haven't really needed to bring players in really though, obviously it'd have been nice to bring a few new faces in and some back up players but your pretty strong as things stand. Only worry for you is if RVP gets injured i suppose, but if the first games anything to go by Wellbeck will be on form this year.


Have you actually seen our midfield?
Deano
17 years ago
2 months ago
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David Moyes has now announced himself as the biggest cunt in the world to Everton Football club. Fucking ginger hypocrite cunt.
Deano
17 years ago
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David Moyes has now announced himself as the biggest cunt in the world to Everton Football club. Fucking ginger hypocrite cunt.
Ninja
14 years ago
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David Moyes has now announced himself as the biggest cunt in the world to Everton Football club. Fucking ginger hypocrite cunt.


Knew you'd fly off the handle with that, there was nothing wrong with what he said.
Deano
17 years ago
2 months ago
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Knew you'd fly off the handle with that, there was nothing wrong with what he said.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1206661/No-class-Everton-boss-David-Moyes-raps-Manchester-City-counterpart-Mark-Hughes-Joleon-Lescott-transfer-wrangle-escalates.html

Hypocrite.

He's a fucking cunt of the highest order, he found himself as one of the most respected managers in the country over his 11 years with us. He's destroyed that in a matter of a few weeks, not just to us either. Judging by his comments, He should let Rooney go then, you know, for the good of his career? Ginger twat.
Dutton
17 years ago
2 months ago
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It bemuses me how much animosity most Everton fans have had towards him since he moved to us.
King Luis
17 years ago
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Said it a few weeks ago but its easy to be manager at a club like Everton and go on about respect because you don't have as much pull, once you go to a big club (relatively speaking) that all goes out of the window pretty much.
Deano
17 years ago
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It bemuses me how much animosity most Everton fans have had towards him since he moved to us.


I had no problem with it. Wished him all the best. Now I hope he crashes and burns with you lot.
Ninja
14 years ago
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1206661/No-class-Everton-boss-David-Moyes-raps-Manchester-City-counterpart-Mark-Hughes-Joleon-Lescott-transfer-wrangle-escalates.html

Hypocrite.

He's a fucking cunt of the highest order, he found himself as one of the most respected managers in the country over his 11 years with us. He's destroyed that in a matter of a few weeks, not just to us either. Judging by his comments, He should let Rooney go then, you know, for the good of his career? Ginger twat.


No, don't be thick.

He's said that as Everton manager he had found it hard to say no to players who wanted to leave for bigger clubs because he knows them and didn't want to hinder their careers, even if that might have been best for Everton. In response you've linked me an article where he has complained about the conduct of Manchester City in their pursuit of Lescott and the fee that they've offered with a little moan about the timing.

You've completely ignored the fact he never said anything along the lines of 'we will not sell Lescott to City' and the fact that he's talking about a club that finished 12 points below you that season and he clearly sees City, at that point, as 'one of [Everton's] closest rivals], and you're (the most obvious point) ignoring the fact that Lescott was sold to City.

Thats the point you, and the media at large, have confused what he said. He can 'not stand in the players way' and demand the fee that he thinks they are worth at the same time without those being conflicting ideas at all. Thats something managers everywhere have done, and do, we often let players leave who would be useful to us because its better for their careers if they go elsewhere. You've benefited from that 3 times through the likes of Neville, Gibson and Saha and alongside that we've let players like Eikrem and Daehli leave because they've wanted to play football.

How many times have you heard managers say 'we wanted to keep X but Y offered him this and we couldn't stand in his way'? It's a lot, and its exactly what Moyes said when you sold Rodwell to City.

"I had known about it for a while and I thought it was something that was right for Jack and right for Everton," said the Toffees boss.

"It gave Jack an opportunity to go to a really good club and take his chances there."


Nothing story.
SpinSwimScream
14 years ago
13 hours ago
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Only if we sign replacements.


He's already gone, hes effectively been gone for weekes, get a grip
Poe
17 years ago
4 days ago
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A lot of Everton fans slated Moyes throughout last season as well though didn't they?
Eric Portapotty
15 years ago
13 hours ago
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Moyes is a hypocrite, as shown in his pursuit of Fabregas and his subsequent handling of this Rooney affair.

A lot of Everton fans slated Moyes throughout last season as well though didn't they?

Deano as well wasn't it?
Poe
17 years ago
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I dunno if Deano did I'm just going off Twitter where they all wanted him out one game then he was Moysiah again next game.
Ninja
14 years ago
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Moyes is a hypocrite, as shown in his pursuit of Fabregas and his subsequent handling of this Rooney affair.


How does the handling of the Rooney affair make him a hypocrite? Unless you're trying to make the insane point that Chelsea are on a different level to us.
King Luis
17 years ago
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Thats just what some fans are like though
Crane
14 years ago
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Moyes is a hypocrite, as shown in his pursuit of Fabregas and his subsequent handling of this Rooney affair.

Deano as well wasn't it?


99% of managers are.
VP.
13 years ago
1 month ago
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No, don't be thick.

He's said that as Everton manager he had found it hard to say no to players who wanted to leave for bigger clubs because he knows them and didn't want to hinder their careers, even if that might have been best for Everton. In response you've linked me an article where he has complained about the conduct of Manchester City in their pursuit of Lescott and the fee that they've offered with a little moan about the timing.

You've completely ignored the fact he never said anything along the lines of 'we will not sell Lescott to City' and the fact that he's talking about a club that finished 12 points below you that season and he clearly sees City, at that point, as 'one of [Everton's] closest rivals], and you're (the most obvious point) ignoring the fact that Lescott was sold to City.

Thats the point you, and the media at large, have confused what he said. He can 'not stand in the players way' and demand the fee that he thinks they are worth at the same time without those being conflicting ideas at all. Thats something managers everywhere have done, and do, we often let players leave who would be useful to us because its better for their careers if they go elsewhere. You've benefited from that 3 times through the likes of Neville, Gibson and Saha and alongside that we've let players like Eikrem and Daehli leave because they've wanted to play football.

How many times have you heard managers say 'we wanted to keep X but Y offered him this and we couldn't stand in his way'? It's a lot, and its exactly what Moyes said when you sold Rodwell to City.

Nothing story.


So he complains about the fee City offered, but then does exactly the same when bidding for players himself? Fellaini especially as he has clearly waited for the buyout clause in his contract to expire, before offering much less than he is really worth. He's gone in with a nice little unsettling bid to get the ball rolling, very respectful way to treat your old club.

And are genuinely saying that Neville, Gibson and Saha were as important to Utd as Baines and Fellaini are to Everton?
Ninja
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So he complains about the fee City offered, but then does exactly the same when bidding for players himself? Fellaini especially as he has clearly waited for the buyout clause in his contract to expire, before offering much less than he is really worth. He's gone in with a nice little unsettling bid to get the ball rolling, very respectful way to treat your old club.

And are genuinely saying that Neville, Gibson and Saha were as important to Utd as Baines and Fellaini are to Everton?


No, because (AS HAS BEEN SAID A MILLION AND ONE TIMES) Woodward is in charge of transfers not Moyes, it literally has absolutely nothing to do with him whatsoever what fee we offer for anyone. If we're up for calling Woodward names and saying he's useless I'm game for that.

No, I'm saying that clubs often let players go for the good of their career and was using examples of when we've done that, and gave an example of when Moyes did that at Everton.
King Luis
17 years ago
2 months ago
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Think were missing the key point here, is Edward, Woodward's real first name? Poor sod
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
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It's worse than that, just look at the twat.

http://images.dailystar-uk.co.uk/dynamic/58/photos/686000/8686.jpg

Genuinely one of the weirdest looking blokes I've ever seen.
King Luis
17 years ago
2 months ago
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He looks even more like a tiny face drawn on a balloon than Aspas does
Ninja
14 years ago
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I think his forehead is bigger than his actual face.
Eric Portapotty
15 years ago
13 hours ago
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Cursed with a receding hairline, yes.
Ninja
14 years ago
7 years ago
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Cursed with a receding hairline, yes.


It's not just a receding hairline, even if it hadn't receded his forehead is still somewhere in-between Cristiano Ronaldo's ego and Lionel Messi's new tax bill in terms of size.
King Luis
17 years ago
2 months ago
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He's the first human case of receding face

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