Further Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c72pgzvzr23o

@Footygamer 

This is something interesting. LA Galaxy II, for example, is extinct, but they apparently have players in. I'll deal with these through their sources or finding them, but do you know if this is a commonplace thing in FM? For Extinct Clubs to still have players at them? Actually, in FM, they're not set as Extinct? I'm very confused.

The problem I see is more historically it's causing an issue. Like, for example, with SI Missed, there was a bunch of edits where you were trying to move players from LFA Reggio Calabria to Reggina, all of those I had to disable because Reggina is the extinct club. If somebody types a club name in and gets more than one result, there's a risk of them selecting the wrong club to move players to, and sometimes that might be missed. Especially if their two club names and club logos roughly line up on a source like transfermarkt and their name is recognisable to the person making the edit, could be easy to make an edit and not know you're making a mistake. I checked the FM23 and FM24 Editor: In FM23, there's 26,012 Extinct Clubs; In FM24, there's 26,580 Extinct clubs, so in a single year, 568 clubs have ceased to exist… But my worry is more the amount of clubs that have vaguely similar names where somebody could reasonably accidentally send a player to the wrong club, it might not be noticed soon enough and end up in a daily update (E.g: Montréal Impact and Club de Foot Montréal; Reggina 1914 and LFA Reggio Calabria; AFC Tubize and RU Tubize-Braine; WSC Hertha Wels and SPG Wels (WSC Hertha Wels/FC Wels)). IMO, disabling searching for extinct clubs within the Edit Page (but not Browse), would protect against that.

@Footygamer Awesome. I'll check it out in the morning! I also have a question for you, and I'd like your opinion on it. Would it make sense, in specifically the ‘Team Contracted To’, ‘Loan to Team’ and ‘Future Club’ Fields (but not the Browse Search), to blacklist Extinct Clubs from being searched for? I ask this, because sorting through all those SI Missed items, there was a good couple dozen transfers where the club listed was the incorrect club because they'd likely searched wrong, found a club's previous club (which more often than not still has the same logo), so if that was enabled, the player would likely not exist in the game as I believe players at Extinct Clubs are intentionally not loaded.

@Footygamer Would it be possible for you to edit the Edit Page, so in the "Team Contracted To" field, where there's the darker grey box on the far side, next to box you type: Instead of just having the Unique ID, have it span two rows. With the Unique ID on the first row, and the Status of the club below it (Professional, Semi Professional, Amateur, Always Amateur, Unknown, etc.)? A big thing that saps up time in me making new transfers which aren't loans or movements to free agency, is that I need to go into the Football Manager 2024 Editor, search for the club and check this, as that determines what type of contract the player will be on after moving. I.e: You don't want a player moving to an Amateur Club, on a Full-Time Contract. 

Anyway, I've moved them over to that club. Might've been because I was literally searching for Yunnan Yukun.

E.g: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/team/2000136364 is now extinct. They've been replaced with Yunnan Yukun (2000319417). Has that been updated recently? …Because a few days ago, I couldn't find that club.

Yeah, Windows. Version 124.0.6367.119 (Official Build) (64-bit).

@Footygamer Enjoy this image I made to celebrate the falling of SI Missed…
 

Done. Can you do me a favor? Can you confirm that this  - https://www.transfermarkt.com/ze-mendes/profil/spieler/1083082 - is the same person?  If so, I'll add his Transfermarkt onto his profile here. (I don't need a link, just a yes or no.)

That's been approved. If you do the same with the other one in the queue from that website, I'll deal with that too!

@adriano roberto You might be waiting a while to get that confirmed. I can't access your source, likely because they're one of the many websites blocking traffic from the EU / Europe, instead of implementing the GDPR. 

@adriano roberto I spent way too long laughing that a player with the surname, “Mucuri”, was at a club called, “Murici”, which is only 1 letter out (and slightly in the wrong order) from spelling his own surname. Shame he wasn't Rodrigo Murici!

@Footygamer I've found two very specific website design issues, thought I'd bring them to your attention. They all probably have very simple fixes…

1. On Chrome (possibly also Opera), at zoom levels of 125%+: The “Top Bar” (including the little grey bar below it) is above everything, including the browser's scroll bar. The Scroll bar should take preference above everything else, so hopefully you can change this.
2. There is also an issue with the small grey bar that is part of the Top Bar, sometimes its invisible, but when its invisible, it still takes the cursor's click and doesn't pass it through. So, if there's a link within that area of the screen (from behind) and you click on it while the grey bar is invisible, it either does nothing, or takes it to a link featured in that grey bar, despite the fact its invisible at the time.

@Matthew Salisbury This has been rejected, because that's the wrong player. The player in question is https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/2000160023 (and he's already at Fisher).

@phucp174 This has been fixed. All this time as an admin and I didn't know that I could disable all edits, reverting to the original source material. It'd also help if this system didn't allow users to move players to clubs in the game that are extinct, inactive, etc. 

@Footygamer The system won't allow me to transfer the players at https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/team/23072088 to the right team.

The Sichuan Jiuan thing is my fault, I'll fix that. But the thing regarding Yunnan Yukun cannot be fixed unless @Footygamer can do something? Yunnan Yukun does not exist in this stored version of the database.

If you paid enough attention to this, you'd realize that the version of the database the SortItOutSI Transfer Update was based on is 23.3, not 23.4. In this database the player was at a different club, so that edit has to be made in this Transfer Update too. I'd rather you were more informed before talking like this to a member of staff.

I'm currently going through a backlog of old transfers that happened back in march, this is one of them, if you can find me a source that proves he's currently not attached to a club, I'll approve that.

@Footygamer 

Question: Is this a bug? All I've done is set the expiry date of the pre-existing loan to 30 June 2024, as the club you had listed, AFC Tubize, is the wrong club. He's already on loan at the right club, but had no expiry.

I would recommend if you know how to use the Pre-Game Editor. Loading the latest SortItOutSI Data Update, and just making it so that Slot has a future transfer to Liverpool on 1/7/2024, as Manager (First Team). Truly, with how backwards the UK has become in terms of football post-Brexit. It could be this week, next week, a few weeks time. The only rough estimate I can give you is probably within the next 2-3 weeks. Honestly, although its in the background, I think football is one of the sectors that has been most negatively affected by Brexit. Although the Home Office don't say it, its probably why the new ESC Permits have been issued. The current system makes it a pain in the ass to get foreign staff into the country, and it puts this really high bar (for most clubs in the country below the Premier League) on the type of talent they can bring in. 

@Script1ner  @Lebohang Mokoena If anything, what's slowing down Slot signing a contract is things like this… He's essentially in FM, on the part where you choose the staff you're bringing from the old club, but because of stupid Work Permit rules on staff in England (which granted, is worse on FM), there's a period of limbo now where all the backroom staff he's submitted are ‘foreign’, for lack of a better word.

@Footygamer I have a question about the SI Missed Category now, on checking that list.

So… This, as an example. Why hasn't whatever system deals with this, automatically moved your edit from SI Missed to Disabled, seeing as that later edit does the proper change? I'm willing to start cutting down the 3,178 entries currently in the SI Missed category (with a view to maybe entirely removing the category once they're all dealt with?), and making edits where required. But shouldn't something like this have automatically taken that one away? Usually later edits disable all previous edits, even if they were pending. Is something overriding that on SI Missed? 

My question is, what is the point of the category going forward, seeing as there won't be any further updates from SI to the database? Having "SI Missed" once the current ones have been dealt with, seems pointless, because it doesn't mean anything. It would mean something if, for example, there were future updates to come in the database and players needed to be marked who SI might add the changes to in the future, but as its now the final database update from SI, barring any emergency patches which won't change the database now. But that's not the case.

If you can give me proof that the contract with the club has been terminated before the May 21st, 2024 date (ie: Mutual Termination, being released, etc) in that Facebook Post, I'm willing to approve it now. The way I'm understanding the Facebook Post is that he's under contract until that date, and then will become a Free Agent.

@adriano roberto If you have misunderstood that, for now just change his loan's termination date to May 21st, 2024, and I believe the system should make that change when that loan expires.

@adriano roberto My other question, is: Are you sure you're not misreading that? There's nowhere in that Facebook Post you've used as a source that indicates that he's leaving his parent club, Campinense-PB? Just that the loan is being terminated early. 

@adriano roberto “Luan Santos' contract with São José EC runs until May 21st”. This is likely why it hasn't been approved, because the player hasn't left the club yet, and won't do until May 21st.

Setting as Player / Non Player to give Joe Hart the chance to gain coaching courses and such if he moves to a new club, and so he doesn't just outright retire.