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#800380 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
This isn't to do with a data update, this is a setting when starting a new game called “Disable Player Attribute Masking” it's a checkbox at the bottom when selecting your leagues
#800379 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
Can you please give more specific examples such as screenshots of your editor data folder and specific players themselves. It's impossible to help without more information unfortunately.
#800378 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
Nope it's impossible to start in 2024 with the correct teams in the correct league, i'm working on changing all the world cup, euros, club world cup etc so they happen one year differently as well, but it will always start in the same year unfortunately.
#800377 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
I'll post in here and the r/classicfm subreddit whenever there's a major update (and probably send an email as well).
Otherwise it's just transfers and contracts each day
#800376 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, when you download each file has the date in the zip name
#800375 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
@jackiechan126 It's a bog standard template terms and conditions, i'm pretty sure everything you buy online says you have to delete the product under various circumstances with little realistic ability for enforcement.
#800374 Data Update Home Thread
Footygamer
The Intercontinental Cup hasn't been added yet but will be in the next few days.
In regards steam workshop files, it will work with some but not all, for instance you could use a Saudi Arabia file because we don't have a Saudi Arabia file right now, but you could not use an England file because we have an England file.
#800373 All issues with Discord post in here (unban requests, trouble accessing etc)
Footygamer
If you need support with our Discord such as requesting to be unbanned. Please reply in this thread.
Make sure to make your request as clear as possible including your Discord name and any other essential details not just simply “Why am I banned” or something like that.
#800371 Ruca
Footygamer
We don't have the ability to add a person as a player of one team and a coach of another. Best to put him as just a player
#800101 Data Update Home Thread
Footygamer
@Latrell yard man It should be a green banner at the top of every single page: https://classicfootballmanager.com/
#800099 [FM24] Club World Cup fix (fitness/scheduling)
Footygamer
@The Modelcitizen to be honest I was looking at it because I was trying to figure out a way to move the start date so it starts in 2024 instead of 2025 and thought your file would be a good base to start from.
Do you mind if I distribute this file with the dates moved to 2024?
#800091 [FM24] Club World Cup fix (fitness/scheduling)
Footygamer
@The Modelcitizen why does this turn off goal line technology for Premier League?
#800087 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
@Azrael are you referring to Bielsa's comments or something else? You are welcome to send a PM if you do not wish to speak publicly.
@Bielsa is a Legend could you cut it out so people can report any actual issues.
#799939 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
You don't need the “sortitoutsi fm24 data update” files as well as the classic fm files (but do keep the real name fix). They will also overwrite the Classic FM files because it's done alphabetically.
You also seem to be missed the “Non Dynamic Data.fmf” file somehow.
Did you download again after the previous comment?
If so can you share again with in list view that shows the file modified/created dates?
#799905 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
@Ollie Willerton @kayin.agogbua Can you please redownload, it seems like the most recent file was missing the proper attributes file.
That's the issue with publishing multiple updates per day, should stick to less frequent updates 🤦♂️
#799904 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
No it's not designed to work with that file.
#799900 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
Possibly this is an installation issue, can you screenshot your editor data folder and the list of extra files you see when creating a new save?
#799899 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
There's over 1 million changes now Palmer is definitely not the only player to have been edited. Possibly this is an installation issue, can you provide some more details of players who have stayed the same?
#799898 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
@Ollie Willerton are you using one of the dynamic data files or the "Non Dynamic Data" file?
Can you screenshot your editor data file or the list of files you're using when starting a new save?
#799813 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
🚨 Bug Fix 🚨
Classic FM has been updated to fix two bugs affecting both player abilities and club finances, particularly outside Europe. Unfortunately you need to start a new save in order of these to take affect.
The file was updated Oct 22nd 2:30pm UK time. If you downloaded before that you should redownload.
#799812 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
Cancel = Will lose the £5 guarantee
Pause = Won't lose the £5 guarantee
On the website you can only pause, but you might cancel through Paypal or your Credit Card provider.
#799805 Site issues - reporting thread
Footygamer
Sorry this was a temporary error that should now be fixed @Berkeedv2
#799753 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
You can find them on the shop page and click “suspend” and “resume”
#799747 Challenge Ideas and Suggestions
Footygamer
Got an idea for a future challenge? Share it here!
#799690 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
🚨 Quick Fix for Classic FM
Massive apologies but I accidentally left in some debugging code that affected Cole Palmer and only Cole Palmer. This means he's still rated a lowly 140. This only affects the "Non Dynamic Data" file. If you're using one of the Dynamic Data Files it's not an issue.
#799689 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
The data update (transfers, contracts and leagues) is already inside the Classic FM files, you don't need both.
#799682 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
Fixed.
If this is happening to anyone else click on the shop page and see if there's a “refresh” button next to your order.
https://sortitoutsi.net/shop
#799667 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
Yep every league is updated
#799666 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
@Graham Cameron I can see the two orders and will get one refunded. The download should happen instantly or there's a button on the classic fm home page saying “Click here” to download if you've already paid.
#799646 Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive
Footygamer
Today i'd like to introduce a new project called Classic FM it's available here: https://classicfootballmanager.com/
The goal of the project is to be the biggest and most complete Data Update for FM24. But more than that it's to keep the old generation of Football Manager alive for years to come, not just until FM25 is released.
That's the reason there's a separate URL, because maintaining support for two games on this site will get very messy over time, so long term, people looking for updates to the older versions of the game will be able to find them at the new site and the main Sort It Out SI website will continue to follow the new game. Of course for now you can find all FM24 content on this website.
I've also setup a Sub Reddit r/classicfm so there's a place for people to continue sharing content about older games when the more popular subreddit moves on to the new game.
What does it include?
This is the best Data Update available for Football Manager 2024 giving you the following:
What are Dynamic Player Abilities and Club Finances?
On top of just updating the basics i've added new feature that I wish was in the game by default Dynamic Abilities and Dynamic Budgets.
People won't always agree with how i've updated players ability and clubs finances. For instance Cole Palmer was rated 140 in 24/25, but what should he be now 160? 165? 170? and what should a teams transfer budget be? Does anyone know the true state of any clubs finances?
To solve this i've implemented a system to let every save be unique with every player's ability and every clubs finances changing between each save whilst still staying within a realistic range (it's not totally random).
If you always play with the same team you'll discover that sometimes you have a transfer budget of £60m other times £90m and everything inbetween. Whilst with players like Rashford sometimes he will hit the peaks of 22/23 other times he won't and this will vary alot more across games than usual.
But this is optional. If you want to play with fixed data in every save like the default game, you can do that too.
Pre Window Transfer Budgets
By default transfer budgets are set realistically based on the end of the real life transfer window, i.e. if they spent alot in the summer they don't have that budget again (if a team spent 200 million they don't then get another 200 million…)
However with the pre window budgets files, teams will have a bigger budget that you'd expect at the START of a transfer window based on their usual finances. This makes things a little more fun and interesting.
Why?
Lots of reasons. In the short term FM25 has been delayed so we all need to keep FM24 up to date if we want to play with the latest squads, this includes updating player abilities, ages, contract dates and club budgets which most free and simpler updates don't do.
In the long term FM25 will bring alot of changes that not everyone will like. Even if they do like the changes, it's still nice to go play the old games for nostalgia.
This isn't a unique idea, it's already happened before, CM01/02 is an old generation of Championship Manager that people still play regularly over at https://champman0102.net/. I want to replicate this longetivity and it's best to start now while as many people are still invested in FM24 as possible.
This is just speculation, but after Sports Interactive were sued by Man Utd they began to crack down on community efforts to mod the games. They've also gone all out in buying licenses over the past few years when previously they've been more than happy to leave this up to the modding community. While everyone is excited that Unity will make the game more easily moddable for skinners, i'm concerned that it will be less moddable when it comes to adding unlicensed content. FM24 could be the last of its kind in that respect. We won't know if this is true until after FM25 is released. But again, it seems best to get started sooner rather than later.
Full Player Histories
Long term i'd love to update all player histories as well to add to the immersion. This includes not only players real life league stats, but also things like their international record and their injury history.
This will take alot of work and is not ready yet.
Start Date
I and many others have spent countless hours trying to get the game to start in June 2024 with all the right promotions and relegations. It's not possible.
Compatibility with older FM Games
Is FM24 the best FM ever? Some would say yes, others would say no. In theory the system i've put in place should allow updating older versions of FM as well. But i've been focusing on FM24 for now so this isn't ready yet and I can't say 100% that it will be possible or good enough.
£10£5 a yearI'm charging £5 a year. This will no doubt annoy some people. Others won't mind since it's a small amount to pay. Long term I feel like £10 is also a reasonable price, but I want to start at £5 to thank early backers and because not all the features listed above are ready yet.
If you support for £5 now it will stay £5 forever for you.
You can get it for free
Still not everyone can afford £5 so everyone will be able to get it for free by contributing to the project. There's going to be alot of monotonous data entry, especially for the player histories, if you help out with this for an hour two you can get the update for free and the update will be better for it.
Coming Soon.
You can earn Affiliate Commissions
As everyone is probably well aware fansites and YouTube creators often sell copies of FM with affiliate codes earning them referral money. This year they're missing out, or at least seeing a delay, in this income that they'd usually receive in October/November. To cover this i'm doing the same, you can sign up for a referral code and earn 10% on every sale of the update.
Coming Tomorrow (there was a weird bug I can't figure out yet and I promised everyone i'd launch today…)
Why is so much "coming soon"?
I bit off more than I could chew after announcing it would be released today…