Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
Nah, I'd rather not watch horrendous football.

And he signed dud's like Alan Smith, Geremi, Cacapa and Viduka - all contributed hugely in the wrong way in the season we got relegated.
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
Sam was terrible, he spent an absolute fortune on mostly terrible players. Barton, Geremi, Smith and Viduka ffs. We're still feeling problems from his first spell, and it's been 7 years.
BR.
17 years ago
2 years ago
1,896
Big Sam's a top manager at what he does and his record speaks for itself, but Newcastle need a manager who the fans feel that they can get behind - that wouldn't be the case with Big Sam after his first spell there.
Number 1
16 years ago
10 months ago
3,650
Allardyce now might be a better fit, but the first time was not a right work for either of us and I doubt either party wants to work with one another ever again.
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
The time is never right for Allardyce to manage a club that wants more than mediocrity.
BR.
17 years ago
2 years ago
1,896
Like Bolton finishing 3 points off a CL place?

To be honest it's impossible for teams like that to come as high nowadays anyway in the current PL, he's mainly tasked with keeping teams steady and competitive in the league on more often that not a limited budget. Which he guarantees every time.
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
Big 'Limited Budget' Sam - he's had fortunes to spend at West Ham, Newcastle and Bolton are one of the most indebted clubs in England.


The Chronicle is outstanding. They're actually blaming Pardew for the second half of the season. And praising Carver for keeping us up. And suggesting that Carr has a 100% success rate.

"A year ago an agent who worked with Newcastle told me that United’s scouting team wanted technical, attacking players who could deliver excitement on-the-pitch" - Yet Pardew insisted on shite players. Carr apparently wanted Hazard, and Pards insisted on Karl Henry.

They blame Ashley/Pardew for everything. Whilst praising Carr, Carver and Charnley regardless of terrible they do their job.
Eric Portapotty
15 years ago
1 day ago
3,322
Big 'Limited Budget' Sam - he's had fortunes to spend at West Ham, Newcastle and Bolton are one of the most indebted clubs in England.

Credit where it's due at least he's not Steve fucking Bruce.
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
Like Bolton finishing 3 points off a CL place?

To be honest it's impossible for teams like that to come as high nowadays anyway in the current PL, he's mainly tasked with keeping teams steady and competitive in the league on more often that not a limited budget. Which he guarantees every time.


It wouldn't be a long sustained period of success though, it'd be a flash in the pan - he's been completely mediocre since then.

Big 'Limited Budget' Sam - he's had fortunes to spend at West Ham, Newcastle and Bolton are one of the most indebted clubs in England.


The Chronicle is outstanding. They're actually blaming Pardew for the second half of the season. And praising Carver for keeping us up. And suggesting that Carr has a 100% success rate.

"A year ago an agent who worked with Newcastle told me that United’s scouting team wanted technical, attacking players who could deliver excitement on-the-pitch" - Yet Pardew insisted on shite players. Carr apparently wanted Hazard, and Pards insisted on Karl Henry.

They blame Ashley/Pardew for everything. Whilst praising Carr, Carver and Charnley regardless of terrible they do their job.


I'm baffled by the Chronicle's support of Carver and Charnley. Both completely clueless.

Carr I understand a bit more as he's been good in the past - I think he's under pressure for the 'perfect deal' now - whereas if we were allowed to spend a bit more he'd have continued his run of good signings (possibly). I think he's made more good signings than bad ones though - players like Marveaux and Mbiwa are good players they just needed a manager who would believe in them and play them in the correct positions for a sustained period of good form.

If we got Aubameyang/Lacazette/Grenier in etc.
Number 1
16 years ago
10 months ago
3,650
Claim is a 4 man shortlist of McClaren, Garde, Laudrup and Viera. Mercifully, John fucking Carver will not be considered. Which mean we can stick the press support for him up his arse.

Charnley is still inept. Presumably he's only supported by the Chronicle because he actually gave an interview to them, which Ashley hasn't done and I don't think ever will. Carr is hit-and-miss, although it wouldn't have surprised me if there was something like a Hazard/Henry false equivalency. I think him and Pardew believed in different things, hence why a number of signings didn't work.
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
Pardew is very much an old-school type of manager, likes fast wingers who aren't overly technical, a big guy and a small guy and two box to box midfielders.

Whereas Carr is more modern and was signing people like Cabella and Marveaux who won't fit in a 4-4-2 in any position.

A McClaren appointment would be completely underwhelming and lacks ambition.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
Would be interesting to see how Paddy Vieira copes if he gets the job. If all goes well and he's successful I wouldn't mind seeing him at Arsenal in the future.
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
It's looking increasingly likely that it will be Vieira, he's odds on with all bookmakers now.
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
Carr loves the technical football. His Kettering Town side played some smashing stuff in the Unibond League, before he was sacked for relegating them. Pardew didn't even play 4-4-2 very often, tended to play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 quite often.

Either way the Chronicle sweeped away all of the flops in recent years. And apparently it is him pushing for McClaren.

Good to know appointing the guy with no experience is seen as the ambitious choice. The guy who's actually won trophies is the least ambitious.

Anyway my choice out of the apparent contenders is;

Vieira > Laudrup > Garde > McClaren.

Regarding Charnley - I don't think it's so much the interview, I think it's more he's willing to tell them things, ie he's their source for a lot of stories.
VP.
13 years ago
1 month ago
25,271
Surely they could have been told a bit more respectfully.

Newcastle released Ryan Taylor by phone, before telling Taylor to pass his mobile to Jonas Gutiérrez so he could be released
Shedender
17 years ago
2 months ago
13,751
Unprofessional.

Jonas should have been treated A LOT more respected.
Number 1
16 years ago
10 months ago
3,650
Yeah. Its not a defendable tactic.
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
The entire regime isn't respectable in any way shape or form.

Except their money making.
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
How would people like them to have been told out of interest?

Charnley to have flown out personally? E-mail? Text?
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
Face to face like a respectable football club would've
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
They're in a different country though.

"Hi Ryan, it's John, we need to have a chat, when's good for you? OK Wednesday it is then, I'll just book my flight, see you then, take care then."

"Hi Jonas, it's John....
Vercoe
11 years ago
3 years ago
1,510
Or at a convenient time when everyone's in the same place at the same time. Just before the of the season, at training, for example.
VP.
13 years ago
1 month ago
25,271
I often wonder why people take the time to reply to Shola.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
I'm sure a club with a bit of decency would be able to afford a £200 flight to tell a long-time servant to the club and occasional captain who gave as much as he could that they're not going to renew their contract.

Sums up Newcastle in the past five years in all honesty, this.
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
Face to face is the only acceptable way of doing that, regardless of where they are in the world.

£1000 is fuck all to Mike Ashley.

Or they possibly could have been told when the decision was made - which was most likely before they left for their holidays.

It's just a cunt move - every little thing they do wrongly. Ridiculously inept.
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
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Whats even worse is Adam Campbell didn't even know until he read it online - no one bothered to tell him
Slashman X
17 years ago
4 months ago
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Premium
At the very least they could've called him on his own phone...
Flash.
17 years ago
10 months ago
677
Premium
Those overseas connection charges are a bitch to be fair.
Number 1
16 years ago
10 months ago
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A consensus is emerging that McClaren will be appointed NUFC manager this week.

Great. More bad news.
bluemoon.
17 years ago
3 months ago
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Premium
A consensus is emerging that McClaren will be appointed NUFC manager this week.

Great. More bad news.

You'd prefer Vieira?

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