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Still the biggest story in Scotland.

RANGERS’ injury problems are mounting up ahead of the trip to play Forres Mechanics in the Scottish Cup.

Ian Black is still struggling with the hamstring problem which kept him out of the rousing 2-0 League Cup win over Motherwell on Wednesday.

Dean Shiels is also a doubt with a groin problem which forced him off in the latter stages of that victory against the Steelmen.

Added to that the fact Fran Sandaza is out for between two and three months with a broken cheekbone and things have certainly gone downhill for Ally McCoist this week.

Andy Little and David Templeton are two other players who are definitely not making the trip north and that means the manager is short of options for the game.

Kyle Hutton may well feature again in midfield beside Lewis Macleod while Lee McCulloch will almost certainly start in attack.

McCoist said: This is one of our worst scenarios, to have five players who are first-team starters struggling.

“Black has a hamstring problem, Shiels has one with his groin and we’re obviously missing Little and Templeton.

“We knew this sort of thing would be a possibility and with the transfer embargo coming up, it was important to try to strengthen and get bodies in.

“Unfortunately we never managed to do that but we’re going to have to get on with it. The flip side is that the younger boys who have been coming in have been wonderful.

“We’ve got a few injuries and we need to deal with that but the youths have been a breath of fresh air.

“Whether it has been Robbie Crawford, Lewis Macleod, Fraser Aird or Barrie McKay, they’ve done a job.

“The fans have really been enjoying seeing them play and that’s something which is really positive for the club at the moment.”


Sandaza won't play again this year after fracturing his cheekbone in the 2-0 League Cup victory over SPL leaders Motherwell so he's a long-term absentee alongside Temps. Glad to see Kyle Hutton back in the side, looked impressive against Motherwell as did Fraser Aird and Lewis MacLeod.

Unfortunately couldn't get a ticket for the Forres game but will be heading to the next game, which is Stirling Albion away next Saturday.
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Rangers are dead.

The Rangers are your club now.
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See if they beat you the morra, don't ever come back on here again. I swear to god I will never let ye forget it
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 29 September 2012 - 01:02 AM
Rangers are dead.

The Rangers are your club now.

I'll tell you who my team is, thanks very much.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/156198_490087301010030_907634272_n.jpg

Link for the perma-obsessed...
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Who the fuck is Argyriou?
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 29 September 2012 - 15:06 PM
Who the fuck is Argyriou?


Some Greek defender we got from AEK.
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As I understand Rangers can't legally be called Rangers for 12 months or so? Fiorentina had the same issue iirc
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So I assume you also use 'Manchester United Football Club' each time you talk about Utd?
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By Flash. | Permalink | On 30 September 2012 - 02:54 AM
So I assume you also use 'Manchester United Football Club' each time you talk about Utd?


United don't come into it. Everywhere I see The Rangers now they are referred to as Rangers (as evidenced above)

I have been following the fortunes of the club so far but it is rubbing in the face of others really if they can't keep to that basic rule
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No one calls their club by the full name.

They call it by the name that's easiest.
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 30 September 2012 - 02:39 AM
As I understand Rangers can't legally be called Rangers for 12 months or so? Fiorentina had the same issue iirc


Not quite, Fiorentina were refounded and couldn't use their old name, logo or claim any of the titles won under that name until they bought it back. The same thing recently happened to Salernitana, they were refounded as Salerno Calcio in 2011/12 and managed to buy the Salernitana name in the summer. As far as I know there's no set time limit before they can buy back their old name, it just seems to take a year in most cases.
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By Flash. | Permalink | On 30 September 2012 - 03:21 AM
No one calls their club by the full name.

They call it by the name that's easiest.


That is not the point I am making at all. I am making the point that Rangers and others are still calling them Rangers and not the proper name. When you view clubs sites they are supposed to refer to their actual name not the name they can't legally use yet.
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There's no 'legal' reason why people and websites can't use Rangers.

Websites aren't legal documents.
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I had a read over the Insolvency Act and it would appear I wasn't fully aware of the situation. Fair play
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Ian Black and Dean Shiels are expected to return to the squad for the weekend's game vs Stirling Albion, Andy Little should return in the next game against Queens Park and Templeton is having his injury reassessed within that timeframe. Only Sandaza as the long-term injury casualty. Looking forward to the trip to Stirling Albion, confident of taking our first away league win of the season. At least they better after the farce they served up at the last away game I went to at Berwick.

We've also announced another charity partnership through the Rangers Charity Foundation to raise £100,000 for a brand-new hospice being build close to Ibrox to care for patients in the twilight of their lives. We're looking to raise the cash to go towards the Family Suite in the centre to provide a place for patients to be with their loved ones. Yet another worthwhile commitment made through our ongoing charity work.
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All quiet today boys...
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Forgot they were playing today, just checked the score.

Gaha.
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Haha losing to Stirling Albion
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To put into context Stirling won their opening game 5-1 and then lost every single league game after it - until yesterday.

Even Clyde won at Forthbank - and they went out of the cup to a Highland League team yesterday.

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In fairness to Rangers, Stirling Albion were relegated from the lofty heights of the Second Division last season. A hard place to go for the new club.
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Who was that getting halved?
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Left wing? Probably McCulloch.
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Ian Black actually
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Cunt thought he was the Vinny Jones of the SPL, now getting showed up to be an absolute comic show and regular bully victim down in the lower league, heh.
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Last summer, a Scottish institution crumbled. Rangers Football Club of Glasgow, Scotland, which has won 54 league titles – more than any other club in the world – was bankrupted and liquidated following years of the financial mismanagement.

In short order, Rangers FC became RFC 2012 plc, which became a new company, Sevco Scotland Limited, which was then renamed The Rangers Football Club Ltd. The club’s assets and history were transferred to the new entity. So were most of its players, including U.S. national team defender Carlos Bocanegra and midfielder Maurice Edu.

But the club’s place in the Scottish Premier League, where it had so resoundingly dominated with cross-town archrivals Celtic, did not carry over. As penitence for their wrongdoing, the New Rangers were relegated to the fourth Scottish tier, the Third Division – a Siberia of professional soccer.

“We would have had to play in the Scottish fourth tier, but the club is unbelievable. I would have had no problem staying there at all,” Bocanegra said. “It’s really hard to explain; to see it from the outside. I’ve played at a lot of clubs, but within the first three months, I fell in love with the club. It’s so embedded in people’s roots and their social upbringing.”

“My time at Rangers I really enjoyed,” Edu said. “Things were going really well for me. It was a great platform. I won a few titles and played in the Champions League. Scoring the winner in an Old Firm game was probably the highlight of my career.”

But U.S. head coach Jurgen Klinsmann has made very clear that his players ought to be playing their club soccer at the highest level (far away from Russian flatlands).

So Bocanegra and Edu had no choice but to leave.

Rangers had hoped Bocanegra would stick around after administration. But after they were relegated, they could no longer afford his salary. So he went on a 10-month loan to Racing Santander of the Spanish Segunda Division, which the defender picked over other options he says didn’t make sense financially. There was a moment the day after the transfer deadline when the deal looked in peril, as several faxes sent before the deadline didn’t actually arrive until minutes afterward. FIFA approved the transfer anyway.

“My national team career was a big, big issue in my moving,” U.S. captain Bocanegra told FoxSoccer.com. “But I still want to fight for my position with the national team. If the national team wasn’t involved, I would have 100 percent stayed with no regrets.”

Edu was also loath to leave one of the world’s best-supported clubs, and sorry to move on from the team that brought him to Europe from Toronto FC four years prior.

“My first year we won the league away at Dundee United and the whole bus ride back, the streets were lined with people,” says Edu. “When we got back to the stadium, there were maybe 40,000 people waiting to celebrate it as well. That was eye-opening, to see that it meant that much to so many people.”

However, he also had no choice but to leave if he hoped to keep representing his country.

“The World Cup is in a couple of years and [Klinsmann] always stresses that we play at a good level,” Edu, 26, said. “Playing in the fourth tier would have ruled me out of playing for the national team and that’s important to me. It wasn’t a possibility, not something I could do at this point in my career and as a result I had to look elsewhere.”

Edu turned down moves to several French clubs, the most aggressive of which was Valenciennes, and was sold to Premier League club Stoke City for almost $500,000. His transfer was held up by paperwork too, as the process of securing a new work permit kept him sidelined for several weeks.

Out of a loyalty exceedingly rare in soccer, Edu nevertheless made sure he transferred his contract to the new Rangers company, rather than become a free agent, so that the club could charge a transfer fee for him – an act of altruism that might have backfired.

“If I could help the club out a little bit I would. I thought it would be a nice gesture to get them some money when I left,” he says. “Everybody was in a different situation and had different transfer fees. But in my situation, I felt like the clubs that were interested in me were able to pay that fee and it would help Rangers out.”

The timing of Rangers’ bankruptcy put the Americans in a tough spot. At 33, Bocanegra hopes to make it to one last World Cup in Brazil in 2014. Had Rangers collapsed two years later with his national team career likely over, things might have been different. “Maybe if I was 27 or 28, I would have said I need to get through the first door out of here,” he says. “But at 33, I was quite happy with my setup, with the city.”

“It was my third club in three years and I felt quite at home with Rangers,” Bocanegra says. “I’d signed a three-year contract and thought this is where I’m going to be. And I wasn’t settling for it. It was an awesome set-up – we had a chance to play in Europe, all these things. And then – Boom! – freaking administration and all this crap hits. Damn. That’s some bad luck.”


Need more footballers like them.
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They haven't bee liquidated yet though, have they? Also why weren't Celtic forced down the leagues when they were bought out by Pacific Shelf?
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because they didnt fold?
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By Poe | Permalink | On 11 October 2012 - 02:45 AM
because they didnt fold?


Rangers were forced out of business so they didn't fold on their own. The Pacific Shelf takeover of Celtic should have seen them demoted as they are a new team

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