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By KH89 | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 01:19 AM
They're certainly young enough to end up in 10 years time being looked back at as club legends.

As for major international honours or any honours, that really doesn't prove anything. I mean Ross Turnbull has the same amount of Champions League winners medals as Petr Čech, Peter Schmeichel and more than Gianluigi Buffon, yet you wouldn't say he's better.

It's pretty clear that Wilshere, Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain could become world class players for both Arsenal and England.

In some cases, yeah, honours don't prove anything. But the Turnbull analogy is pretty irrelevant in this situation I think

With players like Vieira, Henry etc. it has some weight given they were actually key contributors in their teams/national side. Not a reserve GK like Turnbull.
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By KH89 | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 00:05 AM
You sure?

Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain can definitely match or be better than Pires, Reyes or Ljungberg.


Dream on

Pires was absolutely amazing, neither of them have looked like they could get near his potential.
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By AFC | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 13:47 PM
Fellaini, Wilshere, Cazorla, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Rooney with Podolski, Giroud, Ramsey and Arteta for depth.

I have a feeling we will sign Rooney and I think he'd be perfect for us if we did.

No, just no.
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Arsenal won't sign Rooney.
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It's hardly an unreasonable claim. We can afford him/his wages, need a world class striker and like it or not we are still one of the biggest clubs in the world and an attractive team to play for.

Rooney is currently in RvP's shadow and he'd be the main man/focal point at Arsenal so I don't think his desire to play for us in doubt, just comes down to whether we will pay his wages. I'm confident that Wenger/the board realise it's time to start paying the best players top money (especially as this month we are releasing all of the shit players on 60k a week freeing up 10's of millions of wages on players that never play).

Sticking my neck out here and saying Rooney will be an Arsenal player by the time the new season starts.
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I don't want us to sign Rooney and I don't think we will either.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 14:20 PM
I don't want us to sign Rooney and I don't think we will either.


Why not? Just curious why some Arsenal fans scream for us to spend money on big players but don't want one of the best strikers in the world. Not as good as Van Persie but leagues above Giroud.

If you hate him (rather than him as a stirker), consider the fact that everyone except Arsenal fans hate Wilshere. Rooney and Wilshere are very similar, both give it their all which is something our squad lacks for the majority of the season.
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Signing Rooney would be a mistake. There are far better ways to spunk £200k p/w.
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Yeah right now he's not worth the money you'll pay for him.
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Remember this is the club that pay Theo Walcott £100k p/w.
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Everyone hates Wilshere?
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By Dutton | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 15:25 PM
Everyone hates Wilshere?


Obviously not everyone but a lot fans of other clubs think he's a cunt. Heard it a lot irl (not just Spurs fans) and seen it mentioned loads of times on here that 'he's a great player but still a cunt'.

Anyway I agree there are other good options out there, I was just stating some of the reasons why it's not totally ridiculousness to consider we may sign him.

I also want to know why TS doesn't want to sign him as I've seen that opinion a lot on Twitter, also seen many criticise the potential signing of Fellaini. Arsenal fans demand proven great PL players, get linked with Rooney and Fellaini but don't want them. I'd imagine if it was the other way around and if we had only signed Yaya Sanogo people like TS would be calling for Wengers head and asking why he never payed top dollar for a proven striker like Rooney.

By tmatthew | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 15:03 PM
Remember this is the club that pay Theo Walcott £100k p/w.


I don't think 100k p/w is too bad for Walcott in the grand scheme of things, supposedly Ashley Young is on £120k and Nani and Valencia are both on £90k. If we had refused to pay him £100k p/w and let him go on a free there would be outrage and people moaning that we are too tight, lose-lose.
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By AFC | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 14:27 PM
Why not? Just curious why some Arsenal fans scream for us to spend money on big players but don't want one of the best strikers in the world. Not as good as Van Persie but leagues above Giroud.

If you hate him (rather than him as a stirker), consider the fact that everyone except Arsenal fans hate Wilshere. Rooney and Wilshere are very similar, both give it their all which is something our squad lacks for the majority of the season.

I dislike Rooney but that's not why I don't want us to go in for him. It appears as if he's past his best and has fitness problems, plus a large ego to boot. If we're really prepared to pay £25m for an indvidual and offer him a wage of around £200k p/w, there options that appeal far more to me - I'd much rather us spend that money on someone like Higuain or Jovetic, or even spend that money on someone like Cesc and buy a cheaper striker instead.

By tmatthew | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 15:03 PM
Remember this is the club that pay Theo Walcott £100k p/w.

Yeah, the same Theo Walcott that directly contributed to over 30 of our goals this season through goals and assists. I'm happy to see him paid that much money if he makes that contribution each season, and he'd probably be paid significantly more than that at United, City or Chelsea.
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For what it's worth, Jack Wilshere is a cunt. Not bad at football, though.
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By Dutton | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 17:03 PM
there hasn't even been news that we've made a bid and lets face it, if we both did make bids he'd probably come here.

Well, that (according to the media at least) we're in the driving seat for this deal gives me an opportunity to celebrate a victory (however minor) over you lot, because, you know, I'm a bitter cunt.

Just let me be dammit.

You are seriously obsessed,


I won't deny that.
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By bluemoon. | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 16:22 PM
For what it's worth, Jack Wilshere is a cunt. Not bad at football, though.

He's become a lot more respectable over the past couple of years. Becoming a father has had an influence.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 16:37 PM
He's become a lot more respectable over the past couple of years. Becoming a father has had an influence.


Ha
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West Ham transfers/rumours so far...from KUMB...

Many offer for Magia

they will let Carlton Cole, Jake Larkins (now with Orient), Jack Powell, Jami Rafati and Eoin Wearen go after not offered a contract by west ham...

O'Neill want stay, hope new contract...

Some young players ready to play for next season are Callum Driver, Matthias Fanimo, Robert Hall (offer made), Elliot Lee, Sebastian Lletget, Sean Maguire, George Moncur, Ravel Morrison (hes back with us), Dylan Tombides, Blair Turgott.

Sam interesting Danny Simpson, William Gallas (fuck off), Franco Di Santo and Roque Santa Cruz (not sure)

also David Bentley after spurs let him go...

And nothing news about Carroll. wtf?
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By hammer9 | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 20:05 PM
also David Bentley after spurs let him go...


Avoid. Hasn't done anything since 2008 and his career's totally fallen apart, looked poor in the Championship last season, and would probably ask for big wages.

Don't think it'll happen though - West Ham would surely know better, wasn't he only with you last season? (as in 11/12)
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By BR. | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 20:23 PM
Avoid. Hasn't done anything since 2008 and his career's totally fallen apart, looked poor in the Championship last season, and would probably ask for big wages.

Don't think it'll happen though - West Ham would surely know better, wasn't he only with you last season? (as in 11/12)


yeah i know...we dont need him!
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We've signed Higuain according to a Colombian news station who claim to know his family. Must be true then.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 21:41 PM
We've signed Higuain according to a Colombian news station who claim to know his family. Must be true then.


Quite a scoop for Celtic
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 22:00 PM
Quite a scoop for Celtic

Arsenal. I support both.
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Everyone seems to move and bring in some players but only us who we're linked with the same players for years. I hope Levy puts some money on the table for transfers otherwise I doubt we'll have CL football next season.

Meanwhile Asron Villa brings in Bulgarian winger Tonev.
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All these Arsenal fans saying they can afford Rooney, since when?

The board say every year that Arsenal have lots of money to spend and they never do, I don't see why this year is any different.
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By Flash. | Permalink | On 08 June 2013 - 12:27 PM
All these Arsenal fans saying they can afford Rooney, since when?

The board say every year that Arsenal have lots of money to spend and they never do, I don't see why this year is any different.

Well our stadium debts have to have been paid off some day, maybe that time has come.

We've also secured some lucrative sponsorship deals, so that'll give us some leeway in terms of spending.
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By Flash. | Permalink | On 08 June 2013 - 05:27 AM
All these Arsenal fans saying they can afford Rooney, since when?

The board say every year that Arsenal have lots of money to spend and they never do, I don't see why this year is any different.


New stadium deal this season and the pretty much done-deal £30m a season kit sponsorship.l AST (supporters group) did an analysis of all our accounts recently and the outcome was that we can comfortably spend £100m this summer.

For the last 18 months we have had £50m+ in the bank that could have been spent without damaging us but the club chose not to. So it's just a matter of whether we will or not now the new deals are coming through and the stadium is closer to being paid off.

EDIT: Rumour is Higuain is 'very close' to signing for us, would love him here but it's probably bollocks.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 07 June 2013 - 22:46 PM
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