mons
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Known Issues as posted by Footygamer
You temporarily cannot @ users
You temporarily cannot quote multiple posts when replying
You temporarily cannot sort columns when browsing the FM Database
There are some duplicate pack imports in the Cut Out Submissions

Coming Soon
* There's no search field when you advance into SS Kits
* There is no preview post option when posting a new discussion/thread.
* Another moderation issue is that individual posts cannot be moved to a different thread.
* Where have all the smilies gone?
* Filters for the pack submission page in the cut-out megapack section


Issues to be investigated, as identified by users
* The display logo for the Standard Logos is the default dark empty cut-out face, for some reason.
* No role for staff on clubs profiles in Data Update. On a similar note, for non-players, club job isn't shown on their FM database page.
* It is not currently possible to easily submit changes for the live update for a staff member from their profile in the same way it is for players.
* There seems to be an issue with trying to add a new season to a career. You can add club/club league/nation without problem, but when trying to add any competition it is impossible to select one because the one chosen gets automatically deselected. A brief video of the issue can be viewed here.
* HockeyBhoy's career stat image doesn't match up with his actual career stats
* In the cut-out forum, if you've had some FM21 players (new UIDs) in pack requests made on the previous version of the site, these are not appearing in the pack on the new version of the site. Screenshot
* If a pack request is made with filenames being player names rather than UIDs, any of the source images is not displayed in the respective player's timeline. It does however display in his submissions page.
* When you input a team's UID into the cut-out search page, the ensuing result lists their FM20 team rather than the FM21 one. Juventus as an example, showing Matuidi and Higuain.
* Downloads > Skins page bringing up a 404 page
*Data Update Discussion forum has gone from that drop down menu when selecting a destination for a new thread/or moving a thread


Feature requests
* Same goes for the comment icon in the submission forum, with unread messages perhaps displayed in white text on a dark background for added immediate visibility.
* Similarly, a completed request (like here from the previous version of the site) has a link to the request it was made from. Would it be possible to have something similar vice-versa? I.e. when a pack with sources has been 'converted' into a pack containing game-ready images?
* When you selected a piece of text and clicked on the link button on the old forum, the selected text used to be automatically entered into the description part of the URL code. Now, the selected text is overwritten so have to re-type it manually.
* Please add 'spoiler' on the message bar thanks
* Ability to sort cutout requests by date completed and most recent comments as in the old site design
* An ability to to "mark all as read" for a specific forum/subforum - currently the only way I can see to do this is to mark the entire site as read?
* Differentiate a comment replies and cutout requests - currently every cutout request regardless of comments is labelled as "User replied 1 day ago" e.g. https://i.imgur.com/HiD0qrB.png
* Wouldn't it be better if, when you search and find a person, the "Cut Outs" link actually brings you to the Submissions page instead of his timeline, just as it happens now when you click the "View Cutouts" button?
I'm referring to this link and this one
* On previous site, you could post an image in the cut-out forum for player/staff which is not active in current FM db. Since all requests are perforce associated with a person in the db, this is no longer possible. Perhaps a manual UID input button could be added to enable instance such as this?
* Is there any way to search out the Referees in the Database?
* When looking for a player with a compound surname (ex de Jong, da Silva, da Costa ...), the order of the answers isn't great. More details here.
* Extremely cosmetic, but my OCD doesn't allow me not to mention the fact that the text in this list of recent activity in the cut-out submissions forum isn't aligned where the persons don't have a cut-out in the megapack.
* Any way to access old old site archive though? I know it was already broken the 1st time the layout changed so I'm guessing it'll be even more broken by now
* I'm getting something like this every single page I go to on the site, and any time I go near the top of the page to click on a link or something. Can it be toned down so it's not so "in your face"? I don't know if there's any way of making it so it needs a certain amount of time on the hover until it comes up, but even a half second would probably mean it doesn't come up literally all the time
* Is there a way to see the "normal" logo rather than just the small? At the moment I'm having to view the actual image and remove the "-sm" in the URL (for cups). For leagues, I'm having to go the extra step of selecting a club in the league before I can actually view the league logo, like this.
* When previewing a post, the box is not very tall, so if it's a big post (especially if it has images) it's not so easy to get a proper look at the preview. Perhaps the default text box size can be increased a little bit.
* In this post if I click the image icon to the right of the attachment links, the embedded attachment fails to load, there's just a black screen along with the sidebar (screenshot). The previous/next attachment arrow buttons don't work, nor does the close attachment X button, so I have to refresh the page.
* unread replies on Daley Blind's timeline redirects to this URL which is just a blank page. mons' comment shows normally at the bottom of the timeline page.
* When you open a submission timeline: screenshot
1. and 2. are pretty much the same. Most of the buttons are duplicated and there is no need of both of them. Also, there is little point in having the upload pack button in any individual player's cut-out submission page, no? It can only confuse users so might as well be removed.
* When you open a source image, the buttons in the upper right corner should be made more visible as they are slightly opaque right now. Additionally, if you try to "Save image as" by right-clicking on the source, the file gets a random name whereas clicking on the download button in the top right, the downloaded file is with the person's UID. Ideally, both methods get the UID as the filename.
* I think there could also be a distinction in the colouring of the tag for game ready and source to enable a more instant visual cue. Game ready is green and source blue, for instance. This would enable users and moderators to spot more easily which are game-ready images and which are 'just' sources
* It's now difficult to understand when a pack is completed. Before, when a teampack request was completed a post would be automatically created in the "Facepacks Release thread". Would it be possible to add this feature again?
* When you are looking in a Pack Submission page (Screenshot), clicking on the time stamp takes you to the person's timeline. Since it's not immediately clear this is the case, perhaps this function could be displayed in a more clear manner.
* You can't see 'thanks' on your own posts, only other people's.
* A user's signature appears on a person's profile but not on their posts.
* In the star beneath everyone's profile, where it says how many contributions have been made by a user, there is a heading called 'graphics submissions', which everyone's is currently showing as 0 submissions.
* Trophy image to be displayed on a competition page where applicable.
* In the old forum, when you would search for a team using the Search Cut Outs function, you would get a grid with all the faces of players/staff members of that team, even the people that still don't have a cut (there was a dark default face as a placeholder for them). Now in that grid there're only people with a cut, but not the others. Example with Fiorentiina cut-outs grid: as you can see, comparing it with the team profile page, there's no trace of players like Lorenzo Petronelli, Elia Masini, Jonathan Spedalieri and many others that don't have a cut-out. It'd be fantastic to have this feature available again.(https://i.ibb.co/9nqNqNT/Skjermbilde.png
* In cases where a player doesn't have a cut-out face yet, the dark default cut-out faces could be used to fill in the current gap in a player/staff member's profile page and for players without a cut-out in the above page once that issue is fixed.
* Currrently on a person's timeline for the cut-out pack, it only shows resolution under 250x250 images since the new website changeover. To have it under both newer and older cutouts would be a welcome addition if possible (https://ibb.co/D1fR8xT)
* The video icon doesn't have a label.
* When you pull up a search on the FM database, it'd probably make more sense that, when you click a person's name in a search, it takes you automatically to FM21 (or the latest version s/he was included in the database). For navigational and UI purposes, the option to move from one version of FM to another would be better placed on the person's page rather than having to click back to choose a new version.
* Could a column be added displaying the name of the team of a player/staff (to the right of their name, for instance) in the Search FM Database results page
* No reputation displayed (amongst other attributes) for teams on their competition page e.g. Serie A
* When a game-ready image is uploaded, all pending and/or being worked on source images for that image should automatically be changed to completed. This was marked as fixed but isn't so just yet. No rush


Resolved issues thus far
* You receive a notification even when you post a message yourself in a subscribed thread, and there doesn't seem to be any way to change this in the subscription page. Or at least I can't spot it
* All private messages received remain displayed as unread in the notification bar at the top, even if they have been read.
* I just went to download latest changes to the facepack and it's doing weird things to my download history. Screenshot in this post.
* If I go here I see all pending source images, as it should be, but if I go to page 2, 3 or whatever, all the filters disappear and I get all the images in the results (as you can see it'll show even approved, game ready and disabled images).
* I can't find any of the torrents for the metallic logo megapack. Nor for the cut-out faces megapack
* I'm trying to find threads regarding SS Kits i click on SS kits Forum and just takes me to the packs and the general discussions like before. It's easy to find on the 3D section but not on 2D
* SS discussions completely gone, you can only see the downloads section of it, but the whole SS forum (official thread, templates, wip etc) is empty.[s]
* The "my requests" filter on the old cut-out faces request forum doesn't seem to be visible (or present) any more. My submissions field added
* Would be good if the download section and the forums section could be divided into different FMs.. eg.. 2010, 2017, 2019, 2020... They can be https://i.imgur.com/qeFg6po.png
* Notifications on subscribed threads are duplicated and there is no way of telling which are unread and which aren't as they are all bolded irrespectively.
* Users are having difficulty downloading the 13.0 cut-out faces update pack, as described in this post. (this is also true for the metallic logo pack 2021.01 update pack). Essentially, the download link for the most recent update packs does not appear, and users are taken to a page where they can download the whole pack in split files, but not the update pack itself.
* User status (staff, premium, moderator etc) isn't displayed near their posts.
* On the old cut-out forum, all completed cuts used to be saved automatically as the person's UID, irrespective of what the filename was uploaded as. This seems to have been changed on the new forum, as can be seen here, here and here, where downloading the game ready image gives a filename of his name, which going by the last link is not the guy's name in the database but presumably what he was named as on his PC.
* As it stands, a game-ready image gets posted at the top of the pile in the cut-out submission forum, which is as it should be. But there is no way of knowing that it was in response to an earlier request. Something like this would be ideal and more intuitive for all.
* This is also not the case when somebody has uploaded a game-ready image for a source which he has selected as being worked on. It's much helpful both for the moderator and the user, if when the game-ready image has been approved, the being worked entry is automatically removed (as long as the game-ready source was uploaded by the same user) and the pending source is automatically tagged as approved.
* On the pack submissions page, they are sorted by date of uploading but the date actually displayed is the date and hour of your last refresh of the page and not the submission date. The page also doesn't seem to contain the option to navigate to subsequent pages containing other, older, submitted packs.
* One for the staff this: When a request on the cut-out forum is moderated, and the page updates itself to reflect the change, would it be possible to take you back to the same place you were previously at in the page? If there are a number of moderations to be done, you have to scroll back down multiple times, which isn't ideal.
* When a game-ready image is produced after a source image has been requested, and the game-ready source has been approved, would it be possible to automatically change the status of the source image accordingly? Would save a hell of a time on moderation if you didn't need to do it twice for every single game-ready image produced for a request...
* It does not appear possible to release players on a free transfer on the data update.
* Its something wrong with transfer update... If the player was loaned and for example now he is transfered permanently to another club the the loan cannot be canceled from this player profile
* It looks like if a user selects FM stories for their new thread, the thread ends up in data update thread instead (e.g. https://sortitoutsi.net/content/56740/sloboden-vs-the-world)
* If you are quoted in a thread (fixed), or a request is completed (coming soon), you no longer receive a notification
* When clicking on the send PM button to get in touch with a user, a PM is indeed generated but the name of the recipient isn't automatically included as it was on the previous forum.
* Is there a size limit on uploads? I've just tried to upload a 14mb team request pack and got a 'Payload too large' error. The size limit on the old site was 99.9mb. Issue reported again on Saturday afternoon CET
* Staff submitted sources in the cut-out submission section no longer being automatically marked as "completed"
* Removed draft/deleted as statuses that normal users can filter by
* Expanded and reordered the options under the submissions menu to include viewing megapack images, commenting and viewing timeline
* In the cut-out submission section, the links to pending/in progress have been fixed (that was a bug) and added as "Completed" link as well
* Changed clicking on the name of the person to jump you straight to the relevant part in the timeline
* I can't seem to download this file.
* When submitting a record you are not able to select the game (the list shows blank options).
* You can still see excerpts/summaries of posts in private areas too.
* If a mod removes a being worked on status from the main submissions forum, this is not reflected within the timeline page, since the being worked on status remains there unaffected by the previous deletion.
* A request limit to be re-introduced in the cut-out submission forum. Maybe 20, including any images uploaded in packs? Up to you, really.
* No notification of new PMs being shown in inbox icon - remains at 0 even though there are actually new unread messages therein
* Trying to download the sortitoutsi Backgrounds is right now broken in the way described here
* Could we please add the UID of a player/staff member in his/her cut-out timeline, like it was in the requests on the old version of the site?
* The pack submissions page does not seem to take into consideration the current status of the request but only what it looked like when it was uploaded. Pic of both issues here.
* There was a list on the left of the old site to all the most common/popular downloads, including the megapacks, kits, etc. It also included the 'real name change' link, which I can't see on here. If a list similar to it can be replicated on the new site, that would be perfect. FM21 ESSENTIALS AT THE TOP
* Small issue with forum threads; when clicking on a specific post or "view unread" (e.g. this post), the top part of the post is covered by the site header.
* After a game-ready image is uploaded, you can still use the "I'm working on it" button on the game ready cut, which doesn't make much sense. Could you please disable that option for game ready images?
* Some users are being redirected to a premium membership download page when attempting to download source images from the cut-out submission section, such as this image and this image and this image and this image and these attachments.
* In the Pack submissions page, the number of pending images in a pack (last column on the right) doesn't seem to reflect the real numbers of images still actually pending inside that pack. Instead, it always shows the same number of total images in that pack, whereas some of the Napoli pack request have actually been cut already.
* When you have a comment box open and click on the tabs at the top, the dropdown menu is hidden behind the comment box. Is this intentional?
* The newest data update for FM20 isn't being updated anymore. It keeps showing the same date as the launch of the new site.
* Users are still not getting notifications when the manual tagging option is used with their name.
* When you download a file/pack from the site, the "Date updated" shown in the description is always the current date and time. This is displayed both on the file's page and also on the active posts page where the bit underlined in red should appear in the bit underlined in blue. It's a bit hard to keep track of files as it stands.
* After editing a request in the cut-out submission forum, it takes you to your profile page. Moreover, the status of the edited request is automatically changed to completed irrespective of the edit made.
* When a game ready pack is released, the download all button is a great addition. An Approve All button along the same lines would be ideal for moderators too. As it stands, each game-ready image within a game ready uploaded pack has to be approved individually, which is quite time-consuming and even more so in larger packs.
* On the previous version of the forum, if you were at the bottom (or in the middle) of a long discussion and mouse scrolled upwards, the breadcrumbs for the discussion dropped down into view. This was particularly helpful to navigate, especially on larger pages, but it is no longer working in that way. Can it be brought back?
* As an aside, making the download button more prominent (white text on a darker background maybe?) might be a good idea to increase visibility. Users have indicated some difficulty to locating the download button in some instances.
* In the active content page or forums, clicking the icon on the left takes you to the latest unread post. Can this also be replicated for private messages?
* It would be good if a user who submits an image (be it game-ready or source) received a notifications for when it is approved and/or rejected.
* Push notifications are no longer working
* On the old cut-out forum, it used to be possible to make a request from an external URL rather than necessarily from a file saved on one's PC - would this be possible again?
* Preview images in the cutout timeline are only resized by width and not by height, so in this timeline for example, a source image is covering the megapack cutout above it.
* Moreover, in cases like the above, approving a game-ready cut should also automatically approve the original source too so that the source image gets removed from the pending list. This is currently not the case.
* On a person's timeline in the cut-out submission forum, if the upload image button is used to upload a game ready image instead of the upload as a response, then any pending sources will still remain thus. If a cutter uploads a game ready image in this method, it's fair to assume that there is no need for pending source(s) not to be considered as complete, so perhaps they could also be automatically converted as such.
* In a related issue, on the rare instances that there are more than 1 pending sources on a person's timeline and the upload as a response function is used for one of the source, the other image(s) proposed will remain among the pending requests (even if the cutter could clearly see all of them and choose the best one to cut). Essentially, when a game ready image is uploaded, then all pending sources should be converted to completed.

Anything more you come upon, or queries on how to do something, please post them here. The site is still a WIP and there is no better time than now to resolve anything you spot. Footygamer has done a great job working on this all alone, and all the users owe it to him, and to the whole community, to work together and make this an even better place, so be kind, be patient, and have faith it'll be all right in the end 😉

When an issue from the above has been resolved, then perhaps it can be struck through to determine its resolution, and also so that who raised the issue can check to see if that is indeed the case.

Fellow staff members, feel free to help out by adding into the OP any issues outlined in this thread.

All issues posted up to here have been posted above.
mons
14 years ago
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For instance, on the previous version of the forum, if you were at the bottom (or in the middle) of a long discussion and mouse scrolled upwards, the breadcrumbs for the discussion dropped down into view. This was particularly helpful to navigate, but it is no longer working in that way. Can it be brought back?
mons
14 years ago
29 minutes ago
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Notifications are duplicated and there is no way of telling which are unread and which aren't as they are all bolded irrespectively. There also doesn't seem to be a mark all as unread button 😉 Oh, and you receive a notification even when you post a message yourself in a subscribed thread, and there doesn't seem to be any way to change this in the subscription page. Or at least I can't spot it :doh:

All private messages received remain displayed as unread in the notification bar at the top, even if they have been read.

User status (staff, premium, moderator etc) isn't displayed near their posts.

One for the staff this: When a request on the cut-out forum is moderated, and the page updates itself to reflect the change, would it be possible to take you back to the same place you were previously at in the page? If there are a number of moderations to be done, you have to scroll back down multiple times, which isn't ideal.

Another moderation issue is that individual posts cannot be moved to a different thread.
mons
14 years ago
29 minutes ago
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I can't seem to download this file. As an aside, making the download button more prominent (white text on a blue background maybe?) might be a good idea too :ok_hand:
Ernesttico
10 years ago
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Thanks for opening this thread, mons! It'll surely be easier to report all issues we can spot in these first days.
I'll copy here my message of a little issue me and mons have spotted.

If I go here I see all pending source images, as it should be, but if I go to page 2, 3 or whatever, all the filters disappear and I get all the images in the results (as you can see it'll show even approved, game ready and disabled images). Can you please fix it? Thanks!
gianni1970
6 years ago
31 minutes ago
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I don't see the SS kits forum anymore
bluemoon.
13 years ago
4 days ago
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I just went to download latest changes to the facepack and it's doing weird things to my download history.

https://i.imgur.com/y5cMZmh.png

I didn't download any of those files today, but I did log-in at that time today.
bluemoon.
13 years ago
4 days ago
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You can also see excerpts/summaries of posts in private areas too. But I can't send a PM with details because I get a 500 error.
Qvordrup
13 years ago
5 hours ago
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I can't find any of the torrents for the metallic logo megapack.
McG84
5 years ago
5 minutes ago
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Sorry if this has been discussed in a previous post but where is the real name licence fix for FM20?

Just trying to get used to the new page, so it's probably about somewhere but yet to find it.

Cheers
Qvordrup
13 years ago
5 hours ago
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I really like the list in the OP. Please don't just delete the issues that are fixed, just report them as fixed.

If the list could show:

1) acknowledged problems

2) problems being worked at

3) fixed problems

So people can see and follow the process 🙂

I think that would be very beneficial for all parties involved.
Andrew2012
7 years ago
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How to find cut-out face referee from database on new site ?
mons
14 years ago
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I really like the list in the OP. Please don't just delete the issues that are fixed, just report them as fixed.

If the list could show:

1) acknowledged problems

2) problems being worked at

3) fixed problems

So people can see and follow the process 🙂

I think that would be very beneficial for all parties involved.

Good idea, will do. I'll add anything reported up to now myself.

Fellow staff members, feel free to help out by adding into the OP any issues outlined in this thread.
jason barrett
7 months ago
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Hi I’m new to this what is OP how do I find it on the website thankyou
DazS8
11 years ago
3 hours ago
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Sorry to be so negative but I generally dislike the whole thing now.
Is it because I am used to the old version....probably
Will I get used to it....?
mons
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I don't see the SS kits forum anymore

This is it now.


Sorry if this has been discussed in a previous post but where is the real name licence fix for FM20?

Just trying to get used to the new page, so it's probably about somewhere but yet to find it.

Cheers

It's here. I've pinned it to the top of the General FM discussion forum. If there are any other items you can't find, try using the search tool and search posts function in the action bar at the top.


Hi I’m new to this what is OP how do I find it on the website thankyou

OP is internet shorthand for opening post, i.e. the first post of the thread 😉



Sorry to be so negative but I generally dislike the whole thing now.
Is it because I am used to the old version....probably
Will I get used to it....?

I've been here long enough to remember when the previous site changeover happened and I was less enthused by it than this one. And I think we all agree the previous look served its function, no? So give it a chance, and if there's anything particularly unintuitive or illogical or which could be improved, now is the time to provide constructive feedback so that it can be improved or amended 😉
loklok
5 years ago
2 weeks ago
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Please add the referee Cut-Out Face to the database search, Thanks so much!
F.E.
13 years ago
5 days ago
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mons, SS discussions completely gone, you can only see the downloads section of it, but the whole SS forum (official thread, templates, wip etc) is empty.

new site looks fresh and modern, I only wish it wasn't so white but maybe it's just me and my eyes 😉

(Also while writing this I noticed emojis are missing from reply toolbar)
Mateee
6 years ago
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Its something wrong with transfer update... If the player was loaned and for example now he is transfered permanently to another club the the loan cannot be canceled from this player profile... Check it out, please.
Day Tripper
9 years ago
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All the SS kit and 3D discussion threads have disappeared?
hammer9
12 years ago
16 hours ago
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All the SS kit and 3D discussion threads have disappeared?


3D kits was fine, only not SS kits discussion 😢
Side Splitting Pass
11 years ago
3 hours ago
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Is there a size limit on uploads? I've just tried to upload a 14mb team request pack and got a 'Payload too large' error. The size limit on the old site was 99.9mb.
hammer9
12 years ago
16 hours ago
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Is there a size limit on uploads? I've just tried to upload a 14mb team request pack and got a 'Payload too large' error. The size limit on the old site was 99.9mb.


Same here, i trying upload SS download new pack tho
marrtac
12 years ago
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How do I complete a request? I have this selected as working on https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1145519/timeline I cut the image, posted it by upload image, it posted as game ready pending. And the request i still pending and showing I'm working on it. Doesn't it upgrade as completed automatically or should it be completed different way?
Side Splitting Pass
11 years ago
3 hours ago
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How do I complete a request? I have this selected as working on https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1145519/timeline I cut the image, posted it by upload image, it posted as game ready pending. And the request i still pending and showing I'm working on it. Doesn't it upgrade as completed automatically or should it be completed different way?


I think your completed cut-out will show as pending until mons or another mod appoves it (or whatever technical term they are using now).

Just noticed that the emoji's are gone too. 😢
hammer9
12 years ago
16 hours ago
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All the SS kit and 3D discussion threads have disappeared?


3D kits are fine, i have sorted SS kits done. im happy now 😀

let me know any missing thread ok 🙂
kingrobbo
11 years ago
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looks like if you are quoted in a thread there is no longer any notification
marrtac
12 years ago
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I think your completed cut-out will show as pending until mons or another mod appoves it (or whatever technical term they are using now).

Just noticed that the emoji's are gone too. 😢

Looks like it the case. Only it's adding them extra work. At least until approving game ready image also marks request as completed. Less work for mods and more clear for users.
mons
14 years ago
29 minutes ago
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Is there a size limit on uploads? I've just tried to upload a 14mb team request pack and got a 'Payload too large' error. The size limit on the old site was 99.9mb.

I've raised it as an issue in the OP.



How do I complete a request? I have this selected as working on https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1145519/timeline I cut the image, posted it by upload image, it posted as game ready pending. And the request i still pending and showing I'm working on it. Doesn't it upgrade as completed automatically or should it be completed different way?

SSP is correct 👍
mons
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Looks like it the case. Only it's adding them extra work. At least until approving game ready image also marks request as completed. Less work for mods and more clear for users.

That is one of the feature requests added above to the list in fact :ok_hand:
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