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Eric Portapotty
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Yeah, it was embarrassing to see. I hope Bould/ Wenger have a word with him about that.
VP.
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Yeah, I hate the fact we got a goal through a dive. Feels dirty. However, we dominated WBA from start to finish and were good for the win. Good to see us looking fresh again and playing well as a team.
Carroll.
Lets not get carried away.
K3V0
It will all soon stop!!
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I agree that the FA should be able to take retrospective action after the game though.
Shola
If Cazorla cut inside and does the exact same dive and Reid is a bit slower and Cazorla goes over his foot it's a stonewaller and no one would say it is a dive.
Where as I think Oxlade-Chamberlain goes past the defender sees the challenge and goes down, where as if the defender pulled out before making contact I reckon Oxlade-Chamberlain would already be on the floor and that would be considered to be a dive.
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I get what you're saying but there was plenty of difference between the two. Cazorla went down under no contact at all, and Chamberlain was hacked down at full speed. One wasn't a penalty, one definitely was.
King Luis
K3V0
Except when players dive it's usually followed by 785 rolls along with desperate clutching of their limbs like they've had a chainsaw taken to their knee or a turn to the referee to appeal for a foul or penalty.
When you lose your balance you don't tend to do those things.
How many cameras are at Premier League games these days?? You can see quite clearly Carzola has dived, just like you can see when Ashley Young does it or Danny Welbeck or Luis Suarez, they have to start banning players for it when it's clear they've taken a dive to try and con the referee.
King Luis
Even so its still far to subjective to be handing out bans imo.
K3V0
Most of the time you can clearly tell that somebody has dived, for example Suarez against Stoke and Welbeck against Wigan.
Carzola dived last night, even Arsene Wenger said so in a round about way, he should be banned for it.
Shola
I know there is a difference, I'm just saying if Steven Reid's legs were in a slightly different position, the Cazorla penalty would be a stonewaller as well. I'm assuming Cazorla was hoping Reid would clip him as he cut inside.
Basically the problem is players looking to go down and attempting to draw contact to win a penalty, rather than looking to score/go past the player and being taken down.
jumberto
A lot of cheating goes on, banning people for diving when often it's subjective is a bit risky. Also, a lot of times when there's just the slightest contact, the attacking player decides a second or two later he will go down and people say 'Oh he touched him and knocked him off balance' when clearly, he didn't. That's not much different to a dive in my eyes. Other times there will be slight contact but you think 'yeah maybe that did cause him to go down'. People seem to use the 'there was contact' argument when it suits them depending which teams/players are involved. Which is right? I don't know. I probably do it myself. Infact I will now. One replay of that Welbeck incident showed enough contact from Al-Habsi's leg to cause him to trip as he stretched for the ball. It's not clear whether he dived or not really.
All teams have players who dive, there's a variety of techniques and some are more obvious than others and these players tend to get all the attention but it's not as simple as just banning anyone who gets caught. It's too subjective. Look at the hysterical reactions to the Torres red card against us, some people swear blind he dived and his fall was unnatural, where as others are adamant he was fouled.
What about the defenders who foul the player then protest their innocence and get away with it, or worse scream at the attacker for diving when he hasn't? These incidents are equally as bad but get zero attention.
Ninja
Oh fuck.
Dutton
jumberto
Sam
Experience in midfield, Fergie? So it'll be Giggs and Scholes in centre midfield then.
Ninja
Fake instagram apparently.
But either way, knowing Valencia, I imagine his idea of a surprise is an extra pair of socks for Christmas and a warm cup of ovaltine before bed.
He'd be my least likely candidate to don a handle bar mustache (/Bebe mask) and turn up undetected at the Etihad.
jumberto
I just had a text saying that he'd said it but I've looked and it does seem fake. He is supposed to be injured anyway.
So we've got no natural width and our most in form central midfielder is also injured. Fantastic.
Ninja
Balotelli would have been my last choice to start of their strikers, but Silva's fit.
De Gea, Rafael, Evra, Ferdinand, Evans, Valencia, Rooney, Carrick, Young, RVP, Cleverley
Cleverley, De Gea, No Scholes or Giggs, Valencia was fit. \o/
Eric Portapotty
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