VP.
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That is exactly why he didn't get a ban, its just a straight forward yellow card offence as the ball wasn't going in.
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Bullshit, he clearly did it to deny a "goalscoring opportunity" (goal in this case), makes no difference if it was going wide.

It's like saying "He went in 2 footed but didn't actually hurt him", still should be a red card
Shola
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Aye, absolute bollocks. Oxlade Chamberlain still had the intent of stopping a goal.
Poe
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Aye I think the Ox should be banned as that red card definitely wouldn't get rescinded.

He didn't deserve one but the way football is, it's completely backward - we either have to look at all incidents impartially afterwards or none at all. The red card should be simply swapped and an appeal lodged if Arsenal want to.
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In other news:

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/iNF3bfcQhXoSu17a514jPUneNy4ZfRBzAy4AGPWn.jpg

Did not know Arsenal's record was that bad
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Bullshit, he clearly did it to deny a "goalscoring opportunity" (goal in this case), makes no difference if it was going wide.

It's like saying "He went in 2 footed but didn't actually hurt him", still should be a red card


There's a difference in terms of the letter of the law.

The second instance is still a red card because the laws state intent i.e. 'kick or attempt to kick' and so on and excessive force is still excessive force whether you break a leg or not.

For a DOGSO handball offence thats not the case, he has to actually have done it for it to be a red card, intent is irrelevant. Therefore, because there was no goalscoring opportunity nothing Chamberlain did can actually illegally deny Chelsea the opportunity, because one never existed. That's why he's got away with it.
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In other news:

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/iNF3bfcQhXoSu17a514jPUneNy4ZfRBzAy4AGPWn.jpg

Did not know Arsenal's record was that bad


Wow me either. Same as the other day when I found out that we have only won 1 game against any of the top 9 this season
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There's a difference in terms of the letter of the law.

The second instance is still a red card because the laws state intent i.e. 'kick or attempt to kick' and so on and excessive force is still excessive force whether you break a leg or not.

For a DOGSO handball offence thats not the case, he has to actually have done it for it to be a red card, intent is irrelevant. Therefore, because there was no goalscoring opportunity nothing Chamberlain did can actually illegally deny Chelsea the opportunity, because one never existed. That's why he's got away with it.


I know the rule, the rule is bullshit, Ox clearly did it with the intention of preventing a goal
Wow me either. Same as the other day when I found out that we have only won 1 game against any of the top 9 this season


That's actually only away games. Including home games, the record is 7-4-18 I believe
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I don't think Remy would be that much better than what you've already got tbh.

Given the lack of depth they have up-front, he'd still be a decent signing.
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I'd happily take Remy. Giroud has been awful lately and offers no pace and ingenuity up front, which we desperately need.

In the summer I'd be over the fucking moon if we actually went and got someone like Diego Costa, but seeing as that's almost certainly not going to happen I'd be happy to us to get Remy and maybe being in someone like Mandzukic as will (with Giroud leaving).
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I've just got home from tonight's match, so please bear with the beer typing...

That was a remarkably listless performance. I am still yet to see a good performance from Giroud in the 8 or 9 games I've been to this season. He is just so static and lethargic as player.

There were four players on the pitch who deserved to wear an Arsenal shirt tonight (Gibbs, Rosicky, Mertesacker and Podolski) and one of them only got given thirty minutes!
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Difficult to disagree with any of that in all honesty. Althought I feel I could have said it a bit more eloquently.

Scholes is stealing a living as a pundit - the man can barely speak.
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... it's his first time being a pundit
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Our season is unraveling and now we're fighting for fourth yet again instead of pushing on and looking to win the title. We've been desperately unlucky to lose so many key players to injuries but the fact is our squad just isn't good enough and the manager failed to act in January when we needed reinforcements.
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I remember when you were getting prickly in October when pundits weren't considering you title contenders and most were saying you'd implode.

It a bit of a shame, because I don't particularly dislike Arsenal, that everyones been proven right again.
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Wenger has to go i feel, he's almost clueless tactically and still refuses to do anything different in the bigger games, instead we're just sent out like lambs to the slaughter. He appears to be unable to motivate the side before matches and his press conferences are up there with Moyes'. Just says the same old shit after every match which rarely makes any real sense to what we all actually witnessed on the pitch. I'm now at a point where i no longer believe he can take us forward, we're actually going backwards now with the likes of Everton and Tottenham not too far behind quality wise and the top 3 are head and shoulders above us on the pitch.

If he doesn't walk away he'll be remembered for the things he did wrong, which really shouldn't happen but if it does he only has himself to blame.
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I remember when you were getting prickly in October when pundits weren't considering you title contenders and most were saying you'd implode.

It a bit of a shame, because I don't particularly dislike Arsenal, that everyones been proven right again.

We had all of Ramsey, Ozil and Walcott fit then, and even though we did get thumped by City we'd come back with a decent run of form, and at that point the general consensus was that we'd regained our mental steel.

Making up for their injuries was going to be hard without messing with the team's togetherness (influx of new players in Jan)/fucking up the money, which for better or for worse Wenger has avoided.

That said, we've lost (or maybe never had) that steel, and we're a loss to Wigan from seeing this season go utterly tits up.
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Stewart Robson is at it again.

Stewart Robson claims Jack Wilshere may have to leave Arsenal if he’s to fulfil his potential.

The England star, who has struggled with injuries this season, came in for criticism from ex-Man United midfielder Paul Scholes on Tuesday night, following the Gunners 2-2 draw with Swansea.

Scholes claimed that Wilshere had not improved since the age of 17, and former Arsenal star Robson claims Arsene Wenger is firmly to blame for the 22-year-old’s lack of development.

“Jack Wilshere can be a world class player,” he told talkSPORT. “I’ve seen him from a young boy and he’s an outstanding footballer.

“Paul Scholes is right though, he hasn’t developed as well as everybody would have liked him to.

“He lacks discipline. He wants to get on the ball and charge into tackles, there seems to be no discipline.

“Who does that come from? The manager. Wenger has to make sure he has a role in the side where he knows what to do when he does, and doesn’t, have the ball.

“He can be petulant at times. Why is he petulant? Because the manager is petulant on the sidelines and it’s never been sorted out.

“If Jack gets the right manager in charge of him, and the right sort of coaching, he will become a world class player. Arsene Wenger in my view is not that manager.”

Wilshere has been linked with a switch to Barcelona in the past, and Robson added a move away from the Emirates may be the best thing for the Gunners star.

“Like many players that have gone on to become top players, sometimes you have to move,” he said. “Jack Wilshere, at some point, may have to move away from Arsenal.

“If Arsenal change the manager and someone comes in who’s really disciplined and can get the best out of Wilshere, then Arsenal will still be the right club.

“At the moment though, with Wenger in charge, I’m not sure Arsenal is the right club for him.”
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I'd say the injuries have had more of a negative affect than Wenger
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Their equaliser last night gave me flashbacks to the Szczesny/Koscielny mix-up in the Carling Cup Final a few years back.

Dreading seeing how we're going to manage to fuck up in the FA Cup.
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Introducing Goontube.

Goontube is an Arsenal video sharing centre. Check it out. I made it myself.
http://goontube.me
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I remember when you were getting prickly in October when pundits weren't considering you title contenders and most were saying you'd implode.

It a bit of a shame, because I don't particularly dislike Arsenal, that everyones been proven right again.

I was a fool for thinking it would be different this year. I feel incredibly let down by this team and the manager.
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Keep your heads up and win on Saturday
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Keep your heads up and win on Saturday

There's no way we will win. If we didn't have Ramsey, Walcott, Ozil, Wilshere and Koscielny all out injured we might have a chance but I fear City will turn us over on Saturday.
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There's no way we will win. If we didn't have Ramsey, Walcott, Ozil, Wilshere and Koscielny all out injured we might have a chance but I fear City will turn us over on Saturday.


But you have Kallstrom. It will be one of the only times this season I do cheer Arsenal on
Slashman X
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You'll beat us
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There's absolutely no logic that supports this.
Slashman X
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Football isn't logical.

Ye will win
Telegram Sam
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Football isn't logical.

Ye will win

Sometimes, but more often than not the better team with better players in better form will beat the worse team with worse players (with about six out injured) who are in awful form. City will win and I would take a 0-0 draw right now.

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