rristola - Comments

In FM24 there was some attribute (???) for locality, right? Like, TV France would work mainly in France.

Is there now any similar system?

I think that there's NOTHING wrong in the graphics packs - Metallic or the others. It's the game itself. Caused by multiple same UID's, and game can't handle those.

For instance, I started a new save. I saw a vacant job in Swedish lower leagues. There was info “The competition will start on 12th April 2025.”

My starting day was… 23rd June 2025! There were no fixture or league table, but they had stats full of info. Great!

Some of those Swedish lower leagues has same UID's as some African nations or their FA's. Coincidence?

I haven't got that far in my own save, but… isn't spacebar some kind of ‘Continue’ key?

Do you mean, that there aren't those small ones in the graphics pack itself, or they just don't show up in FM24?

At least I have them in FM26 Metallic logo pack. Both small and 2x.

And, isn't it the same pack for FM24 and FM26?

Could it be that SI has created new items into the database (with the same UID's). That could cause something…

If you want more speed, do you have this   https://sortitoutsi.net/content/74865/fm26-speedster-football-manager-26-patch-to-make-the-ui-go-as-fast-as-it-should

It's here   https://community.sports-interactive.com/bugtracker/1644_football-manager-26-bugs-tracker/1873_crash-technical-issues/possible-uid-problem-r33960/

If you have anything to add there, please, do.

I don't know how FM was coded before, or is now.

But, it seems that in FM there are some multiple same UID's used. Like Serie A and Mauritania's FA, both UID: 32.

In FM24 game understood the difference between folders ‘nations’ and ‘competitions’. In FM26 - not. Something like that.

At least I have made a comment or an issue in SI Forum Bugs Tracker.

I will wait until SI has something to tell us. I think you should too.

So, IMO, those graphics packs are OK, game isn't.

You mean Como in Italy Serie A - UID: 1123.

BTW. There's ‘show ID’  in options. Then with ‘Search’ function.

And, did you know, Como or whole Serie A has its 2D kits made already.

About those UID problems. The nasty part of this is, that there are multiple same UID's in the game itself.

For example, won't those UID's cause wrong results or even crashes? 

Like, team X is relegated from UID: 32 or Serie A. Or, team X is thrown out of Mauritania's FA???

And what has caused SI to change UID's this way…

I have added an issue on SI Forum Bugs Tracker yesterday. I put it into ‘Crash & Technical Issues’ section. No answers yet.

And, BTW, there are a lot of issues there…

Hi!

I'm not an expert on FM, but I did some testing trying to find solution for the problem with logos.

I noticed that in game there are no flags, but a lot of logos of their Football Associations.

I simply removed the ‘nations’ folder, and now those logos seem to be OK.

Could it be that in FM26 they don't use both FA logos and country flags?

IMO those flags look better than those logos in UI.

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There are still at least something missing. (Picture added.)

It looks like there should be two logos side by side. What should the other one be?

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Every item in the game has its own UID - players, teams, but also countries, competitions, etc.? Right?

One of the “missing” logos now is the logo of Serie A (UID: 32), and logo of Mauritania's FA (UID: 32).

Also UID's 50, 52-55 are both Swedish leagues and some African FA's.

I'm not a staff member here. But… those pictures seem to be fine IMO.

That line above pictures is most likely a flaw in FM UI. That is the upper border of the pic.

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I noticed that (newer) pictures of women players don't have that line.

Is that because those pictures were processed in another way, or a flaw in the code of FM UI?

I've noticed, that some competitions in Finland (my country) have quite dark logos. For instance UID: 129131

If there is any official lighter ones, should we start using those? The chosen colors for UI are also dark. 

Of course, after a while there will be lighter skins available, but…

BTW, would it be one of those no-nos to add a lighter border to darker logos, and vice versa?

Border isn't part of the logo, but this way all logos would fit any color scheme.

I found that in both folders ‘faces’ and ‘iconfaces’ there - most likely - is one line in their config files, that is causing this.

Near the end there is a line

<record from="desktop" to="graphics/pictures/person/0/portrait"/> 

or something like that.

BTW. There is a lot of teams with vanilla logos, because FM uses own logos for womens' teams. 

Do you mean in normal use or the Match Engine?

In normal use, like when searching info on a team, game uses 2D kits. Like a shirt in a hanger.

When an actual game is played (= Match Engine), then 3D kits are used. Shirt, shorts and socks.

Both kinds of kits you can find here    https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/kits

I had the same. Some logos etc. were fine, some not.

You have to check this - there is a folder called ‘graphics’ INSIDE ‘sortitoutsi SS kits megapack’ folder.

So, clean all those unnecessary folder levels away.

I have never used PhotoShop. I know that there's GIMP, but I haven't done anything with it either.

For me the main reason was that there just weren't that much Finnish kits around, so…  And those kits were only for me.

Sorry, I should have asked this question in some other forum in the first place.

I do too. I would have dumped my kits, if there had been better ones. I also prefer decent kits over vanilla ones.

Again, agreed.

Yes. There were no Finnish kits, so I tried to make some. To have even decent ones.

Yes, absolutely. I have not used Photoshop, ever. But, me complaining - no.

Somewhere I saw a posting, where it was said that there are not as many kit creators as there used to be.

I just thought if there could be any way to get more people to try making kits. First easier tool, and only then possibly PhotoShop.

My idea with KitCreator (or whatever app) is that there could be a guidebook how to prevent kits becoming blurry, aso. 

And maybe there could be something adjustable in the app itself. And still use quality control.

Still they wouldn't be as good as PhotoShop ones, but…

I never wanted to be unpolite.

Thanks for all those kits you have made. They are great.

2D or 3D? Both. As mentioned, I have used KitCreator, and it makes both of them.

And because FM starts to use Unity, will it make 3D kits to be even more “important”?

And, as you said, that those 2D kits can be blurry - isn't there anything to do to the app to get them better? To be good enough?

For me kit style hasn't been any issue. I use them mixed. Better any style kit than vanilla…

Well, I don't have anything more to say.

Thanks.

Yes, it would be easier, if we would know what decisions developers have made. Especially with graphics.

Here I have just wondered if there could be a way to get more kit makers.

I know that there are makers of FC'12 kits. They have a lot of 2D kits. Co-operation with them?

KitCreator is a fine tool to make kits, but not perfect. These are examples of what I made two years ago.

Some of those aren't exactly “official”, because there just wasn't every collar or pattern in KitCreator…

But, with KitCreator it's quite easy to make decent looking kits, and so - would it be OK to allow them? And it makes both 2D and 3D kits…

And, of course, there could (should) be some kind of quality control.

Or is there any other decent, easy to use 3D kit designer tool with a pack of new templates?

At least I find it quite nice to work with What You See Is What You Get. There might be also others.

Sure. But if SI still relies on mod makers (like they have done), then we will know some day.

That is why co-operation would be even more important.

I know. I have made a few myself (with KitCreator). Mostly for myself, but they were also downloadable.

I think that “rules” here for official kits are too strict. Like me, I didn't have templates for those REAL kits of REAL teams, and so

I put those kits into ‘other graphics’ section. And KitCreator I could still use, but PhotoShop… no.

For me it's enough when those kits look good, they don't have to be perfect.

FM25 will be a NEW game. Unity and all.

Well, I haven't heard anything about kits (or other graphics) in FM25. 

If FM25 would otherwise be an enjoyable game, it would be great to have larger coverage of kits earlier - and not multiple top league kitpacks…

So, could kit makers make some plans for co-operation? Also with others than from Sortitoutsi?

I gave you wrong information.

I was able to contact a person in VaKP, and he told that they use the old (red) logo,

and he didn't even know why that green-white logo is made for…

Edit.  Actually, they had used that green-white logo for some time, but then went back to the original one.

I'm trying to add pics (for a mod).

I noticed that in faces folder some pics are 250x250 and some 180x180.

Which size is “correct” or suggested?

Thanks.

Hi!

I'm a lower leagues manager, and I think that my players wouldn't use those nice, colorful, expensive boots.

I think that they would want to use basic, but good boots. And the are some nice ones in your collection.

If you ever have nothing else to do, you could add these or pretty same kind of basic boots into your collection - Patrick and New Balance.

That old, red-centered logo most likely is from the workers union times (1929).

This new one with new colors can be found from the football team's own net page.

https://vakp.fi/jalkapallo/

Looking good. Thanks.

Could you make these Metallic, please?

In this zip there are a few logos of existing Finnish teams, but which are not in the database.

In the folder there's a read this file.

All pics should be 180x180 png.

Thanks.

And, BTW, some of those logos will (most likely) be official in summer -24,

but they will be added into FM only in FM25…?

The whole league structure will change in Finland.

Hi!

I wanted to make (or copy) balls for a mod. I took your pack - with your name in it - and added some balls for the mod.  That's OK?

Question: how does that cup style Knockout Standard Ball mode work?

I mean, that what balls will those teams use BEFORE the knockout phase? Normal league ball?

What kind of line should there be in config file?

Can the ‘friendly’ ball be defined league by league?

Could you make these Metallic, please?

There are a lot of pics included in two separate folders (for light and dark skin) - league logos in white and blue to be used with a mod.

If it would need a lot of work, only white logos is enough.

All pics are 600x600 png.

That current logo belongs to a “Finnish baseball” or pesäpallo team. Its net site here. 

This correct logo can be found from the ofiicial Finnish Football Association site here

 https://tulospalvelu.palloliitto.fi/club/333/info