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#2584 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
You do realise trying to claim that it's never your fault is a song about Hillsborough makes no sense anymore?
#2502 Capital One Cup 2012/13
Ninja
#2393 The Babe Thread.
Ninja
I don't know, Silicon has been pretty good to us.
#2063 The Cricket Thread
Ninja
#2048 Old Trafford Lounge
Ninja
#2029 The Relationship Thread
Ninja
For example, I would say 'Never have I ever been touched by my uncle' and Bian would drink because he has been.
#2028 Your side's greatest team since you started supporting them?
Ninja
G.Neville - Stam - Ferdinand - Irwin
Ronaldo - Scholes - Robson - Giggs
Cantona - Rooney
Subs -
VDS
Vidic
Butt
Beckham
Keane
Van Nistelrooy
Cole
I've missed out so many I want in as well Pallister, Kanchelskis, Sharpe, Phil Neville, Evra, Solskjear and probably loads more.
Although I have cheated a bit including Robson, seeing as I was about 3 when he left.
#1991 The England National Team
Ninja
Smalling is a seriously good defender.
#1988 Team of the last 5 years
Ninja
Right back could be literally anyone that's played there over the past 5 years. No strong claims from anyone.
Vidic
Ferdinand
Evra
Carrick
Scholes
Fletcher
Valencia
Ronaldo
Rooney
#1984 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
Watch the gif I posted, Evan's left foot is no more a factor in the tackle than Shelvey's is.
#1939 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
He clearly doesn't though. Both feet leave the ground and move to the ball, but his left leg is obviously never intended to go anywhere near it, which is why it's planted miles to the left and away from causing any danger to Shelvey.
I am not for a second saying that Evans made a good tackle, it was shit, but I think it was reckless rather than endangering safety which is why he probably should have been booked for it.
I'm also not sure why Deano is acting like Evans feigned injury to get Shelvey sent off, he got a kick half way up his leg at some speed, he was probably acting like it hurt him because it really quite hurt him.
#1690 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
I really don't think you can call Evans tackle anymore two footed than Shelvey's watch this:
Both players both feet leave the ground, Evans lands his left foot wide of the ball in no danger to Shelvey and Shelvey makes his lunge with his foot coming round eventually in a scissor movement. Neither of the players use the extra foot in any meaningful attempt to win the ball.
I think it's hard to argue with any of these points.
1. Shelvey makes greater contact with Evans than Evans with Shelvey
2. Shelvey throws himself harder into the lunge than Evans
3. Shelvey makes contact with the ball only after Evans kicks it into him
4. Evans' tackle is off the ground, but no higher than the height of the ball. Shelvey comes over the top of it.
If Shelvey had tackled normally I don't think he was posed any great danger by the tackle that Evans had made. That doesn't make Evans tackle a good one, but if he had made a better tackle he still would have been caught half way up the shin by a tackle thats made minimal contact with the ball and that is why Shelvey was the player that walked.
#1683 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
No, but it doesn't exactly make it just as bad.
Shelvey's tackle is far more wild, far more dangerous and far further over the top than Evans'.
I really don't doubt there's much difference between Van Persie's and Evans' tackles, and Evans almost certainly wouldn't have escaped without a booking without Shelvey's tackle upstaging it almost.
I think in situations like these it's always wise for the referee to deal with the most serious incident primarily, I think it's hard to deny that Shelvey's is the worst of the two tackles made for the ball so the correct decision was to send him off, any additional punishment for Evans' be it a red card, a yellow or no further action should be dealt with as a secondary consideration.
I genuinely think there is only one tackle that we saw yesterday that endangered a player's safety and two that were reckless.
#1572 The Relationship Thread
Ninja
Second night of freshers I slept with my flatmate and didn't find out until the day later because I couldn't remember and one night in Magaluf I woke up on a beach not remembering how i got there, or anything past about midnight.
I've never managed to do that before or since, but it's definitely possible.
#1567 The Cricket Thread
Ninja
England were just awful. Dernbach's over at the end was pathetic from a specialist death bowler, and the batting was mindless.
Even Chris Gayle nudges singles in the first overs whilst he has a look, why Kieswetter and Hales decided it was block or boundary I don't know and that set the tone for the rest of the innings.
#1477 The Cricket Thread
Ninja
#1474 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
Shame it was at Anfield, where we've had 2 penalties in our entire history before today.
#1461 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
Hilarious.
#1450 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
I feel like Henderson coming on was the stupidest decision of the game.
Absolutely no point taking Sterling off who was giving Evra problems all day long.
#1417 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
Shelvey's challenge was awful (Evan's wasn't much better but he got there before Shelvey, which is why he got the decision) and Johnson's wasn't much better. If you make shit tackles like that you're always running the risk (Van Persie got off it because play carried on, referees aren't allowed to play on and then send players off).
Either way we were very, very lucky. We were awful. Michael Carrick once again had a poor game when closed down quickly. Giggs, I'm still not sure why he played. And we look utterly unable to give Kagawa or Van Persie the ball in a position where they can actually do something.
Oh and I'm fucking over the moon Suarez's antics are catching up with him, even the commentator screamed 'CLEAR DIVE' when he threw himself over Evans' leg.
#1326 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
Fucking fuck.
Oh great.
Giggs, in a midfield 2 against Liverpool's three.
#1296 English Premier League 2012/2013
Ninja
It's a Chelsea player, are you surprised he's defending the indefensible?
#1287 Welcome To Stamford Bridge
Ninja
#1095 The Apple Thread
Ninja
Or just get yourself a nice, superior Android and save yourself the pain.
#1044 The Mugshot Thread
Ninja
Two on the end your most recent conquests?
#1043 The Mugshot Thread
Ninja
Two on the end your most recent conquests?
#986 The Cricket Thread
Ninja
#976 The Cricket Thread
Ninja
Luke Wright joins Alex Hales in the 99 club in T20s, stranded not out after running a 2 of the last ball. /o\
#953 The Pool Thread
Ninja
I think I might take part in the Confederations cup, but I could be tempted if there's an African Cup of Nations.
#952 Welcome To Stamford Bridge
Ninja