Not only the name changes .. remember that as we said, there are two stadiums, so even if they are "twins" they still have two different IDs. So when you make your choice, you will make sure that the two clubs have the same stadium (name and ID the same). To understand better, check the "Olimpico" stadium shared between Rome and Lazio in the pre-game editor.

I see. So, in that way, the stadium should be shared between the 2 teams?

That would be perfect. Sadly I still don't know how to use the editor, but maybe one day I'll try that.

#703679 AC Milan and Inter Milan stadium should be the same, but it's always considered 2 different stadiums in the game

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26 Sep 2022 11:42:47

By kingrobbo 26 September 2022 - 05:39 AM UTC

ask SI on their forums directly why it is the case @Humberto21 may be spot on with image rights and his points are valid

you could edit the LNC files directly using notepad where stadium names etc can be edited, it would override any changes made in the pre game editor-
this is what is in that folder currently for Italy

but ask SI first before doing anything as you may cause issues with fixtures etc I doubt it but just check to be sure

Thanks! Yes, I didn't think about asking in their official forums. I'll do that.

#703678 AC Milan and Inter Milan stadium should be the same, but it's always considered 2 different stadiums in the game

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26 Sep 2022 11:41:39

By Humberto21 26 September 2022 - 03:29 AM UTC

@Giant Lizard In short ..
I think it is a question linked to image rights regarding the name of the stadium, for Milan the desired name is "San Siro" for Inter instead "Giuseppe Meazza". So in all likelihood Sports Interactive has decided to make two stadiums for this reason.

How to solve the problem?
Choose the stadium you want to keep .. then with the pre-game editor you change the stadium, save the change in a .fmf file, insert the file in the editor data folder and only in a new save will you have the correction you made .
I'm not very experienced with pre-game editors, but roughly the procedure is the following. You have decided that the stadium in Milan is Giuseppe Meazza (Inter) so in the pre-game editor, you leave Inter as it is, instead you go to the profile of Milan and in the stadiums / stadiums used you will have to replace "San Siro" with the "Giuseppe Meazza". If you want it to be that even when the Italian national football team plays, make sure that "Giuseppe Meazza" is also in the Italian national team. Save the changes and place the file in the editor data folder and be sure to upload it to the new saves.
I don't know if this change could create problems with the creation of calendars, I think not, but I'm not sure. Certainly many clubs share the same stadium and there doesn't seem to be any problems.

Hi, thanks for your answer!

I don't really understand the image rights thing, to be honest. I mean, the stadium is that one, it has a name, how can they say “no, we want a different stadium for ourselves”? Besides, I saw this error exist since at least 2007 (I saw other topics about the same problem during the years) and it seems really strange that such a big difference from reality still couldn't get fixed in 15 years.

And regarding your fix, doesn't that simply change the name of the stadium? The problem is not simply the name, but the fact that the stadium is not shared between the teams, the way it is in reality. That changes a lot of things in the fixtures, the capacity, etc…and there are other shared stadiums in the game, so it would be perfect if that could be shared as well.

#703576 AC Milan and Inter Milan stadium should be the same, but it's always considered 2 different stadiums in the game

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25 Sep 2022 12:00:41

I noticed this error in FM 2007 and FM 2022 (the only ones I played) and I never understood why there's always been this error. Each team in the game has its own different stadium, with 2 different names, but it's actually the same stadium.

In FM 2022 there's even a tab that tells you for each stadium which teams play inside it and sure enough there's only one team for each stadium. This is kind of a big error, because not only the 2 teams are allowed to play at home at the same time (which would be impossible) but during the derbies they even give an advantage to the team that plays at home, which shouldn't exist. This of course ruin a lot the derbies.

Do you know why there's this error and if there's a way to fix it somehow?

#697896 Are the complete packs actually complete or do we still have to download every update pack too?

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10 Aug 2022 12:09:37

By Footygamer 10 August 2022 - 08:48 AM UTC

I've added some more text and rearranged some things to try and make it clearer now.

@Giant Lizard please let me know if you think it's still confusing.

I think it's ok, thank you for your help 🙂

#697876 Are the complete packs actually complete or do we still have to download every update pack too?

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10 Aug 2022 08:30:41

By Footygamer 10 August 2022 - 08:25 AM UTC

Premium members and free members have a different experience and UI which may be confusing people here.

If you're not a premium member you have to download the complete pack and all the update packs, we don't split or torrent the complete pack every month, only once per year, then you need the update packs after.

If you are a premium member you can download the file in one go from our servers.

I see. Thank you a lot for clarifying this!

#697841 Are the complete packs actually complete or do we still have to download every update pack too?

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09 Aug 2022 18:58:33

By BramNUFC 09 August 2022 - 12:53 PM UTC

For all graphic packs, clicking on this green ‘download complete pack' button will give you the complete and most up to date version. So there's no need to download all the individual updates. The only note is that for the cut-out facepack you will need to have a premium account to be able to download this version.

Hi, thank you for your answer.

Are you sure about this? Because I see the version number is different. For example, for the standard logos:

You see, the complete file is 2022.00, while the updates are from 2022.01 to 2022.08.

Same goes for your screenshot. If you actually click that green button, you get to a screen where it says that the complete pack is 2022.00, while the updates go higher than that.

#697799 Are the complete packs actually complete or do we still have to download every update pack too?

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09 Aug 2022 12:34:31

By mons 09 August 2022 - 12:20 PM UTC

@Giant Lizard Typically, every pack has a base version released on or slightly before the release of the game in the autumn. After that, most graphic packs periodically release update packs to add new images or replace existing ones.

If you download the .00 pack, you should be able to use it in your save without any issues. However, if you want to be fully up-to-date, you should download all the subsequent update packs and install them chronologically.

Ah ok, so the complete pack doesn't include all the updates, which I still have to install separately.

Thank you a lot for your answer!

#697792 Are the complete packs actually complete or do we still have to download every update pack too?

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2 months ago

09 Aug 2022 11:30:25

Sorry for the dumb question, that's something I still don't understand and it could save me hours if I know.

Like, for example for the standard logos: the complete pack version is 2022.00, while the updates start from 2022.01 till 2022.08. Does that mean that I also have to install every update, even after installing the complete pack? Or does the complete pack already have all the updates included?

And is the same for every graphics pack?

Thank you in advance for any answer!

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#703736 AC Milan and Inter Milan stadium should be the same, but it's always considered 2 different stadiums in the game

#703719 AC Milan and Inter Milan stadium should be the same, but it's always considered 2 different stadiums in the game

#703679 AC Milan and Inter Milan stadium should be the same, but it's always considered 2 different stadiums in the game

#703678 AC Milan and Inter Milan stadium should be the same, but it's always considered 2 different stadiums in the game

#703576 AC Milan and Inter Milan stadium should be the same, but it's always considered 2 different stadiums in the game

#697896 Are the complete packs actually complete or do we still have to download every update pack too?

#697876 Are the complete packs actually complete or do we still have to download every update pack too?

#697841 Are the complete packs actually complete or do we still have to download every update pack too?

#697799 Are the complete packs actually complete or do we still have to download every update pack too?

#697792 Are the complete packs actually complete or do we still have to download every update pack too?

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