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#726017 Idea created, need some feedback etc.
bucksie438
I know I need help, my family and friends tell me often enough, but this isn't quite related to that.
I have an idea to spice the game and create some “chaos” within the English Football League by using the editor to “rework” the structure.
I would appreciate some feedback to the idea, some thoughts from you all regarding tweaks, any other ideas etc.
I am also asking for help from those who know how to do this in the editor etc.
Sorry for posting a “shameless” plug, but please check
https://sortitoutsi.net/content/61991/overhaul-of-english-football
TIA
#726016 Overhaul of English Football
bucksie438
Good Evening fellow players…
I have a dream, that one day, English football will be more competitive with more randomness. More excitement, more pie and chips, and simply more more and even more something's. Imagine a club stuck in 8th place year after year in the Championship as it is now, then being able to compete at the very highest level in the following year with the potential for European Football. Having to concentrate on developing the youth team more than the first team, being able to have a league that just spews talent from lower leagues.
The Current FA needs a new management team, they need a new structure, the Country depends on it, the fans deserve it. And the clubs need to flourish, not face financial ruin. The supporters aren't turning up because they are bored.
So, how do we do it? We take the current structure, and rip it apart. We introduce a new idea, a new way of thinking, a new dynamic.
We create a whole new world of English Football.
So, the English Football league being completely rocked, we add more divisions, more Cups, more games… but with some twists.
We Currently have EPL (20 teams, 38 games), Championship (24 teams, 46 games), League 1 & 2 (24 & 24) 92 Teams. For me, the maths just aren't quite right.
I want 16 Teams in a Division, but with a twist…. (Mwahaha)
Idea, all Divisions have 16 teams (8 Divisions, 128 Teams):
(Names to be decided, maybe English Apple Elite, English Apple Premier, Ford League 1 & 2, Sony League 3&4, or even more random. Sir Geoff Hirst Elite Division, The Gary Lineker Premier, Sir Bobby Charlton League 1 etc. this could simply be English Elite Division, English Premier, English League 1 etc. This isnt important right now (LOL))
The Season is set up in blocks, so the first 3 weeks, games are Sat & Wed, so we can get 6 games played early, then a league break and the individual Cup Comps are played, 2 weeks of games, Saturday and Wednesday again. 4 rounds of games. The Elite Tier is the only league to break for internationals. So the 2 weeks the international games are being played, the League continues with Sat and Wed.
A full Winter break from League games of 2 weeks starting second Sunday in January, well, almost 3 weeks (So break starts Sunday 8th Jan 23 and league games return Wednesday 1st Feb 23). This period of time, the Cup Comps are in full flow again, to get as many rounds covered so the Semi Finals and Finals can be completed in April and May. Rounds (every 3 days, so squad rotation is key) are Wednesday 11th, Saturday 14th, Tuesday 17th, Friday 20th, Monday 23rd, Thursday 26th & Saturday 28th the league continues. The Cup games are split, so you might have a Tier Cup on the first date, the FA on the second date, a league Cup on the third date, then back to a Tier Cup. Or you could have 2 Tier Cup games, then a FA, then a League Cup etc. This could be mixed up completely. We have 7 Cup dates to work with. The match day rules will be unique for clubs in Cup games, they must play a minimum of 4 under 23's, they must have 4 Homegrown players from Country, and 2 Homegrown from club. Again, this encourages rotation and the use of youth.
The transfer window is same as it is, but Domestic transfers open when the transfer window closes for an extra 2 Weeks. But, (random time again), players cannot move between clubs in the same Tier, only via loan. SO Harry Kane cannot go to another Elite Tier club, but could be signed in Tier1 or below….. (Not sure this could be done in FM?!)
Season finishes on the 2nd to last Saturday in April with full week break before the cup, European and playoff games can finished and take place before the end of may.
So next season, those 4 clubs promoted join the Elite tier, and join the group stage to see if they are Elite Division, or Premier Division.
TV Money is £400m split for Elite, £200m, split for Premier, Tier 1 will get 150m, Tier 2 gets 100m, and Tier 3 we will be generous, they will get 100m
Prize Money, now this would be based on league position, but i want to mix it up again. 1m for a win, 300k for a draw and nothing for a loss. So it pays to win games, win all league games and potential to net 30m just on wins. Now add the prize money for League finish, 100m for 1st place, then 75% of that for 2nd place, 75% of 2nd place for the 3rd placed team and so on…. (Again, this could do with some more though)
The Prize money and TV revenue will help the clubs have a bigger squad size and the wages etc.
Cup Competitions (Again, names to be decided):
Now, more randomness applied here, Winner of Tier 3 Cup, gets promoted to Tier 2 L4, winner of Tier 2 cup gets promoted to Tier 1 L2. and the 5th place team from bottom from those 2 divisions,(L4 and L2) get relegated to where the winners came from, so imagine being 13th Tier 3 L2, winning the Cup, getting promoted 2 divisions whilst a club sitting happy 5th from bottom of Tier 2 L2 now playing 2 divisions down…. (Not sure if this would actually work in FM, but one hell of an idea)
Now, some even more randomness, ALL teams have a First Team and Under 23's teams. The Squads can have a 30man first team, but must be able to include 2x U23 players and 2 Homegrown Country and 1 Homegrown Club player in the matchday team. 4 subs from 9,
The Under 23's cannot have anybody over 23 in the squad/team. Strictly for under 23's. No more 1st Team, Reserve team and Under 18's teams. Just a First Team and a U23 Team.
U23 teams are placed in a leagues drawn at random, groups of 8 again, but seeded. so each Division will have 1 team in each group. Top 4 from each group then get grouped in another group of 8 and the bottom 4 get grouped. So this opens up some more game time to keep players playing. Match rules are simple, match day squad must include 6 players under 19. 11 Subs allowed from 11, so half time could swap the whole team if you wanted. Match days are Sundays and Thursday's, so you could have some players in your 1st team that are able to play for the under 23's, they didn't play on Saturday, but could play on the Sunday etc.
All English teams are encouraged to promote youth, so all clubs have their youth ratings and facilities maxed this includes the current Vanarama clubs, the youth development is the priority for all clubs.
Prize monies given to clubs can vary, so maybe 100k for winning each Cup game, 50k for losing. Or maybe 100k for just being in the round. the money goes up by 25k each round perhaps. This I haven't really though through yet as i can see the rich getting richer and the lower, not so secure teams becoming worse off.
TV, this is a whole new ball game, the New FA Management team, now actively promotes streaming, so all games play on Saturday at 1500hrs and Wednesday 2000hrs. Games are selected for “Satellite TV" aren't moved days, just times. So 1300hrs, 1500hrs 1700hrs and 2000hrs on Saturdays, and 1800 and 2000hrs for Wednesdays. On Saturdays, Rival matches are selected to be played at 1700hrs (Saturday only), Top teams are selected for the 2000hrs showing and all others are picked at random. This rule applies ALL the way down the divisions. So new Broadcaster BLUESKY TV has set their sports channels for each Division. The Elite Tier at the beginning will have the matches double up, so 2 TV games at 1300hrs, 2 at 1500hrs etc. TV money is relative for the Tier the games are in, so perhaps 250k Elite Tier, Tier 1 gets 200k, Tier 2 is 150k and maybe Tier 3 showings get 100k. Teams will be televised equally over the year, so Liverpool aren't shown live at 1700hrs every Saturday…… Esp as Streaming is encouraged. All proceeds go to the clubs being streamed… (I have nothing against Liverpool being live every week btw).
So, the current league finishes, and their final league position determines where they will now be placed as the new structure is applied. The top 12 teams in the Championship join the current premier league teams. No promotion or relegation to start. Champions are crowned accordingly as they say farewell to the “old world”. The Chairmen of each club is now looking at the club's bank balance and trying to work out the new wage budget to allow his manager to succeed, he knows this new format can bring riches to the club, he knows this exciting new phase will be lucrative for everybody.
PLEASE, I am screwed when trying to create this in the editor, I simply do not know my way round it to create it as I am basically reassigning the English teams to a new league, but unable to work out how to create this…. I have the idea, but no idea. LOL If any FM'ers fancy attempting this, i would be eternally grateful.
#30060 [FM13] Shortlists by to_madeira
bucksie438
Simple "whats the point?" would have done without the use of bad language.
#28768 Roles for 3 man defend
bucksie438
I have tweaked my style of gameplay and i am achieving better results then the first part of the season.
I am fourth in the Championship with Sheff Wed, and my last 9 games have all been wins, 11 games to go, and i think promotion could be gained. but i am not counting my chickens yet.
I play controlling style, short passing, quick tempo,(i have pace up front) i play slightly higher up the park, and always closing down, i don't give them any space, and my possession is always over 60%. Even when i lose. Sometimes i will start a game with overload, esp when playing a better team or if we are underdogs. Once we have about 25mins on the clock i revert to controlling the game. And i have had some very good results, FA Cup against Sheff Utd away from home, UTD were favs and after 6mins, we were 2-0 up. They never got going and the scoreline was VERY pleasing, finished the game 5-0. I even had Semedo sent off and still controlled the game even with a player less.
My Keeper is set to let defender collect the ball, and although i am only averaging 1.3 goals a game, and since tightening my back line i have dropped to conceding .6 a game. Better then first 10 games, 2 goals a game and scoring only .25 a game. Glued to the bottom of the table with only 1 point from a possible 30.
Operation Uphill struggle commenced.
Its good that my team are used to my tactics now, means i can concentrate on bringing/scouting players for next season.
I know who will be leaving, but not sure who i want coming in to replace them......
#26795 This game is a joke.
bucksie438
Freak result for me, 2-0 with 6 minutes to play, conceded a penalty, 2-1,
5 mins to go, keeper takes a knock, off he comes, 16yo sub keepers first job, defend a corner, (oppositions goals from corners season to date=14) 2-2.
3 mins to go, they change formation to 4-2-4. i cant change my tactics quick enough to defend against the 4 forwards, blistering goal from outside the penalty area. 2-3.
my formation changed when we needed to kick off. injury time, whoops, one on one with my keeper, player goes down, keeper (6mins of first team action) sent off. resulting penalty 2-4.
I couldnt help but blast the ref for the first penalty. result: 2 game touchline ban...... still think the ref robbed us though.
Moral of story. only one game, still got promoted first season, second season sat on the bottom of the table up until end of october. ended the season with playoff place.(knocked out in semi) third season got sacked after 9 games and only 5pts. It doesnt matter about the results, Exeter City had enough of me....Now in charge of Wrexham, ended the season relegated..... It really is harder then previous games, and much more challenging and satisfying when small clubs get the result against the bigger and better clubs. No cheats or editors, did not take over another club to buy my crap players for big money etc, just blood sweat and tears.
This game is challenging. and i am enjoying the crap out of it. I'm not a good manager and i don't claim to be.
#17410 Rick's custom data request thread
bucksie438
Is it possible to change the prize moneys?
Can the fixture schedule be changed to adapt the changes, or could they be incorporated into the current fixture schedules?
Internationals;
European Championships (All Euro Internationals qualifiers top 32 teams play finals) set on even years (2014, 16, 18 etc)
Home Nations (Yearly) (Eng, Scot, Rep Eire, N Ireland and Wales) 5 Team league play home and away top 2 teams play final. (Late May) (Teams play 8 league games and one final) (over full season)
World Cup (Every 2yrs, 64 teams 16 groups of 4 teams, top 2 teams each group progress to ko rounds.)
Leagues Structure. (Played over shorter period of time with Winter Break Game on Jan 1st , then not back until first sat in feb, then till End of April)
Premier League 16 Teams (Top 8 enter Premier Cup)
Championship 16 Teams
League 1, 2 and 3 = 16 teams,
Conference 1, 2 = 24 Teams
Promotion and Relegation 3 automatically (up and down) and playoff for remaining 4th place.
Bottom Club Automatically gets relegated, and a play off for the remaining 3 teams. (Winner stays up)
Domestic Cup Comps;
FA Cup ((Major Domestic Cup) All teams)
Premier Cup ((Major Domestic Cup) Played in May - Premier League Only)
Championship Cup ((Major Domestic Cup) Played in May - Championship teams only)
League Cup ((Regular Domestic Cup) Sept-Dec, Prem, Champ, L1, L2, and L3)
Non-League Trophy ((Regular Domestic Cup) Sept - May, All teams Conf and below)
Under 18’s Cup (Played on Sunday Mornings)
Under 21’s Cup (Played on Monday Evenings)
Masters Cup (over 32’s) ((Played on Thursday Evenings) Top four divisions only)
Winners of Cup Competitions go through To Cup Winners Cup
European Cup Competitions overhaul:
European Champions League/Cup (Sept - May) Tuesday/Wednesdays
Cup Winners Cup (Sept - May) Wednesdays
Super Cup (Aug) (Top 8 (quarter finalists) from both Champions Cup and Cup Winners cup play Super Cup (Knockout style) (Beginning of season before leagues start))