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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 03 February 2013 - 11:25 AM
They're hardly going to come out and blast the fuck out of him when he's a current and most likely future work colleague.

I've not seen this incident, got a gif or video bud?

http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=VL5wIxh0CDkf3YdW&t=videa

It's probably a problem with the viewing angle, but what exactly was it that Owen did? Apart from the scuffling there wasn't much, and nothing that warranted criticism IMO.
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He goes to hit Arteta with his right hand then kinda stops midway and just taps him on the shoulder.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 03 February 2013 - 03:00 AM
I can't believe how lightly Owen got off on MOTD tonight. He's thrown a punch, there's no question of it, and it shouldn't matter that he's a weak little bitch who can't properly connect a hit when the guy he's going for is on the ground and facing the other way. Can you imagine the reaction had someone like Balotelli thrown a punch at someone? They would have hounded him and exclaimed what a disgrace he was to our fair league. Unfortunately it seems if you spend more time on their sofas than actually playing the game you're paid thousands of pounds a week for, you're allowed to get a free ride from Hansen et al and do whatever the fuck you want.

Oh, and Tony Pulis can go fuck himself. Biased, bitter old cunt.


Arteta also should have gone for his diabolical elbow. Can you imagine if Suarez did that to an orphan?
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 03 February 2013 - 03:25 AM
They're hardly going to come out and blast the fuck out of him when he's a current and most likely future work colleague.

I've not seen this incident, got a gif or video bud?

It shouldn't matter that they're all best buds - you can't throw a punch. Perhaps I'm being too harsh on Owen, but what really bugs me is the bias shown by the MOTD guys, as well as the likes of Jamie Redknapp on Sky, who often let personal relationships influence their commentary on specific players. They should be completely impartial.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 03 February 2013 - 16:57 PM
It shouldn't matter that they're all best buds - you can't throw a punch. Perhaps I'm being too harsh on Owen, but what really bugs me is the bias shown by the MOTD guys, as well as the likes of Jamie Redknapp on Sky, who often let personal relationships influence their commentary on specific players. They should be completely partial.


They achieved that tbf.
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By Shola | Permalink | On 03 February 2013 - 17:00 PM
They achieved that tbf.

Oops.
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There really was fuck all in that.

If Owen is reprimanded for putting his hand on Arteta then Wilshere should be banned for running and pushing him.
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 03 February 2013 - 17:01 PM
There really was fuck all in that.

If Owen is reprimanded for putting his hand on Arteta then Wilshere should be banned for running and pushing him.

There's a difference between players squaring up to each other - which happens in every other game you watch - and trying to throw a punch. Don't try and make out they're the same thing.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 04 February 2013 - 02:57 AM
It shouldn't matter that they're all best buds - you can't throw a punch. Perhaps I'm being too harsh on Owen, but what really bugs me is the bias shown by the MOTD guys, as well as the likes of Jamie Redknapp on Sky, who often let personal relationships influence their commentary on specific players. They should be completely impartial.


That's just human nature though. I'm hardly going to lay into one of my mates when he's wrong in front of a huge group of people, I'd take him aside in private and do that, just human nature as I said. Commentators can't be 100% bias if they've any recent history playing football, it's impossible.
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 03 February 2013 - 17:03 PM
That's just human nature though. I'm hardly going to lay into one of my mates when he's wrong in front of a huge group of people, I'd take him aside in private and do that, just human nature as I said. Commentators can't be 100% bias if they've any recent history playing football, it's impossible.

What? I'm not claiming that they should have hung Owen out to dry, but they didn't even condemn the action and brushed it off as nothing. I know that there was little contact and it was made in the heat of the moment, but it's completely wrong to even attempt to throw a punch. They're paid a lot of money to be impartial pundits and as such I'd expect Owen to get the same treatment as any other player. What exactly are you saying - that they were right to say nothing about it, but only if they called up Owen are afterwards, in private, to tell him he was in the wrong?
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 04 February 2013 - 03:07 AM
What? I'm not claiming that they should have hung Owen out to dry, but they didn't even condemn the action and brushed it off as nothing. I know that there was little contact and it was made in the heat of the moment, but it's completely wrong to even attempt to throw a punch. They're paid a lot of money to be impartial pundits and as such I'd expect Owen to get the same treatment as any other player. What exactly are you saying - that they were right to say nothing about it, but only if they called up Owen are afterwards, in private, to tell him he was in the wrong?


No I'm saying because they're buddies and have each other on speed dial in their phones they aren't going to say a bad word about him. They won't act impartial, regardless of how much they're paid, because at the end of the day Owen is a mate of theirs and they will treat him differently. I'm not saying that's right, but that's just human nature, protecting their mates in a way.
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 03 February 2013 - 17:16 PM
No I'm saying because they're buddies and have each other on speed dial in their phones they aren't going to say a bad word about him. They won't act impartial, regardless of how much they're paid, because at the end of the day Owen is a mate of theirs and they will treat him differently. I'm not saying that's right, but that's just human nature, protecting their mates in a way.

Even if it's 'human nature', it's not right. It's not their job to be mates with him and he should get the same treatment as everyone else when they're commenting on incidents involving him. Again, I wasn't calling for them to widely criticise him, but it's perfectly reasonable for me to expect them to condemn throwing a punch even if they're all best buddies.
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It was the most pathetic punch I've ever seen. They were probably embarrassed to talk about it.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 04 February 2013 - 03:28 AM
Even if it's 'human nature', it's not right. It's not their job to be mates with him and he should get the same treatment as everyone else when they're commenting on incidents involving him. Again, I wasn't calling for them to widely criticise him, but it's perfectly reasonable for me to expect them to condemn throwing a punch even if they're all best buddies.


Obviously they shouldn't do it but they must know they can do it and get away with it.
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In fairness they also made absolutely nothing of Cisse doing similar to Ashley Cole.
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Wilshere's not involved in the incident and gets himself involved, he's more guilty than either Owen or Arteta.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 03 February 2013 - 17:57 PM
Wilshere's not involved in the incident and gets himself involved, he's more guilty than either Owen or Arteta.


Playing in the same kinda makes him very much involved.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 03 February 2013 - 17:57 PM
Wilshere's not involved in the incident and gets himself involved, he's more guilty than either Owen or Arteta.

Wilshere shouldn't have got involved but it happens in most games - pushing, shoving and a bit of posturing. Owen tried to throw a punch, no matter how weak a little bitch he is.
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Tony Pulis does have a tendency to act like a bit of a wanker.
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New website. About time, fucking hated the old one. This is a nice design imo.

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gotta load off Mert and Sagna
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By JCash3000 | Permalink | On 05 February 2013 - 15:32 PM
gotta load off Mert and Sagna

I don't think we do - Mertesacker proved how good a defender he can be during the first half of the season, but unfortunately his form has dipped in recent weeks and he's become more prone to individual errors, which become much more noticeable when you're as slow as him. I'm more worried about Koscielny's performances and how he's gone from one of the best centre-halves in the league to someone putting in some really amateurish performances this season. Vermaelen's form has dropped as well.

I agree with Sagna though. His contract's up in 2014 and it seems as if his mind is already on the exit. I find it so frustrating that Wenger refuses to drop Sagna despite some lacklustre displays, given the fact we have Carl Jenkinson waiting in the wings. He was superb during his run in the first-team at the beginning of the season.
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I don't think Mertesacker is good enough for Arsenal tbh.
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By Poe | Permalink | On 05 February 2013 - 16:03 PM
I don't think Mertesacker is good enough for Arsenal tbh.

Perhaps, but unfortunately we're not able to attract players of the calibre of Adams/ Bould/ Campbell nowadays. I still have faith in Mert, as he can read the game brilliantly and by-and-large he's good at winning headers and making tackles. He was superb against Suarez and Aguero earlier in the season, despite my fears before the Liverpool and City away games, but in recent weeks he's underperformed.

If he plays as well as he can do, I think he's good enough. The problem lies with whether or not he can hit that form consistently enough.
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You could easily sign somebody better than Mertesacker. We have 2 centre backs that are better than him, for a start.
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By Poe | Permalink | On 05 February 2013 - 16:06 PM
You could easily sign somebody better than Mertesacker. We have 2 centre backs that are better than him, for a start.

True, but will we? It's unlikely.

Are you referring to Mbiwa or Taylor along with Coloccini, by the way?
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Mbiwa.

I rate Taylor but he's too injury prone - he's prone to a ridiculous error at times too.

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