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Eric Portapotty
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It's probably a problem with the viewing angle, but what exactly was it that Owen did? Apart from the scuffling there wasn't much, and nothing that warranted criticism IMO.
VP.
Shola
Arteta also should have gone for his diabolical elbow. Can you imagine if Suarez did that to an orphan?
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It shouldn't matter that they're all best buds - you can't throw a punch. Perhaps I'm being too harsh on Owen, but what really bugs me is the bias shown by the MOTD guys, as well as the likes of Jamie Redknapp on Sky, who often let personal relationships influence their commentary on specific players. They should be completely impartial.
Shola
They achieved that tbf.
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Oops.
K3V0
If Owen is reprimanded for putting his hand on Arteta then Wilshere should be banned for running and pushing him.
Telegram Sam
There's a difference between players squaring up to each other - which happens in every other game you watch - and trying to throw a punch. Don't try and make out they're the same thing.
K3V0
That's just human nature though. I'm hardly going to lay into one of my mates when he's wrong in front of a huge group of people, I'd take him aside in private and do that, just human nature as I said. Commentators can't be 100% bias if they've any recent history playing football, it's impossible.
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What? I'm not claiming that they should have hung Owen out to dry, but they didn't even condemn the action and brushed it off as nothing. I know that there was little contact and it was made in the heat of the moment, but it's completely wrong to even attempt to throw a punch. They're paid a lot of money to be impartial pundits and as such I'd expect Owen to get the same treatment as any other player. What exactly are you saying - that they were right to say nothing about it, but only if they called up Owen are afterwards, in private, to tell him he was in the wrong?
K3V0
No I'm saying because they're buddies and have each other on speed dial in their phones they aren't going to say a bad word about him. They won't act impartial, regardless of how much they're paid, because at the end of the day Owen is a mate of theirs and they will treat him differently. I'm not saying that's right, but that's just human nature, protecting their mates in a way.
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Even if it's 'human nature', it's not right. It's not their job to be mates with him and he should get the same treatment as everyone else when they're commenting on incidents involving him. Again, I wasn't calling for them to widely criticise him, but it's perfectly reasonable for me to expect them to condemn throwing a punch even if they're all best buddies.
jumberto
K3V0
Obviously they shouldn't do it but they must know they can do it and get away with it.
Shola
Jamieandhisego
VP.
Playing in the same kinda makes him very much involved.
Telegram Sam
Wilshere shouldn't have got involved but it happens in most games - pushing, shoving and a bit of posturing. Owen tried to throw a punch, no matter how weak a little bitch he is.
VP.
K3V0
AFC
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JCash3000
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I don't think we do - Mertesacker proved how good a defender he can be during the first half of the season, but unfortunately his form has dipped in recent weeks and he's become more prone to individual errors, which become much more noticeable when you're as slow as him. I'm more worried about Koscielny's performances and how he's gone from one of the best centre-halves in the league to someone putting in some really amateurish performances this season. Vermaelen's form has dropped as well.
I agree with Sagna though. His contract's up in 2014 and it seems as if his mind is already on the exit. I find it so frustrating that Wenger refuses to drop Sagna despite some lacklustre displays, given the fact we have Carl Jenkinson waiting in the wings. He was superb during his run in the first-team at the beginning of the season.
Poe
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Perhaps, but unfortunately we're not able to attract players of the calibre of Adams/ Bould/ Campbell nowadays. I still have faith in Mert, as he can read the game brilliantly and by-and-large he's good at winning headers and making tackles. He was superb against Suarez and Aguero earlier in the season, despite my fears before the Liverpool and City away games, but in recent weeks he's underperformed.
If he plays as well as he can do, I think he's good enough. The problem lies with whether or not he can hit that form consistently enough.
Poe
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True, but will we? It's unlikely.
Are you referring to Mbiwa or Taylor along with Coloccini, by the way?
Poe
I rate Taylor but he's too injury prone - he's prone to a ridiculous error at times too.