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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 04 July 2013 - 19:40 PM
I think it has more to do with the amount of money the respective owners are willing to invest.

True. Our owner maybe loaded but isn't exactly arsed about spending his vast array of cash. Or even the vast array cash we get from the Premier League TV deal.
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Excluding £130m currently in the club...
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I swear about half that figure is forked out on wages anyway.
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By Shola | Permalink | On 05 July 2013 - 00:47 AM
Excluding £130m currently in the club...


A lot of that made in transfer fees already tbf.
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Crystal Palace agree fee with Newcastle for Dan Gosling.

I'm surprised we've found somebody to buy him tbh.
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Apparently Kinnear cancelled the Douglas deal because Douglas failed to notify Twente that he didn't want to extend his contract and it was extended automatically. So he would not have been a free transfer
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By Eric Portapotty | Permalink | On 28 June 2013 - 09:42 AM
And Joe Kinnear suddenly becomes a genius.
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There's apparently been a number of bets on us signing Scott Sinclair.

Might work... ?
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For all the shut-ins and far away peeps, our live games in the first part of this season:
August 19th at Manchester City (Sky - Monday)
September 30th at Everton (Sky - Monday)
October 19th against Liverpool (BT)
October 27th at Sunderland (Sky)
November 2nd against Chelsea (BT)
November 10th at Spurs (Sky)
November 30th against WBA (Sky)
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They all should be refusing to wear it on moral grounds.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 15:23 PM
They all should be refusing to wear it on moral grounds.


Why? Wonga aren't some evil company.
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By Crane | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 16:03 PM
Why? Wonga aren't some evil company.


Yay, Jaygull's gonna go on another fun and pointless rant
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This is potentially shocking by Newcastle, if we are forcing him to train by himself because he refuses to wear a logo on religious grounds then, it sounds like racial discrimination. Hope it's just bullshit, or he's not travelling because of Ramadan or something.

By Jaygull | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 15:23 PM
They all should be refusing to wear it on moral grounds.


They really shouldn't, absolute balls.

Manchester United players should really boycott Manchester United, until it ends its commercial deals with the betting and alcohol companies. And your sponsored by Nike ffs. I'm sure Manchester United have done a full social audit on all of your sponsors to determine they are all ethical.
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Fuck ethics. If Papiss was ethical then surely most of his wages would be spent on people worse off than him. He isn't doing this for religion at all.
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I have absolutely no idea what the situation is given nobody official seems interested in telling us the truth.

Leaves us with Twitter, which apparently means he's either injured, pissed off with the Wonga deal, wants more money, been seen in casinos, had a bust-up with Pardew after the Sunderland home game last year or is being kept on a separate training schedule due to Ramadan. Take your pick.
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It's impressive how Newcastle continually manage to fuck up.
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By Shola | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 16:17 PM
This is potentially shocking by Newcastle, if we are forcing him to train by himself because he refuses to wear a logo on religious grounds then, it sounds like racial discrimination. Hope it's just bullshit, or he's not travelling because of Ramadan or something.

They really shouldn't, absolute balls.

Manchester United players should really boycott Manchester United, until it ends its commercial deals with the betting and alcohol companies. And your sponsored by Nike ffs. I'm sure Manchester United have done a full social audit on all of your sponsors to determine they are all ethical.


What has loan sharking got to do with those two things? Don't worry, it won't be a pointless rant, it's because Wonga literally is an evil company by any moral definition. There are no big companies that don't have morally questionable sides to them, whether that be in the form of tax evasion or the way in which their products are produced, but they are endemic problems of a larger economic framework. Wonga are just a bunch of whopping great thundercunts, and if Cisse made it clear this was going to be an issue for him ages ago, then Newcastle should have sorted out an arrangement.
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 17 July 2013 - 16:51 PM
Fuck ethics. If Papiss was ethical then surely most of his wages would be spent on people worse off than him. He isn't doing this for religion at all.


How do you know what he spends his money on?
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 01:56 AM
How do you know what he spends his money on?


If he was ethical then why not previous sponsors? Does the Qur'an have a section saying what type of money is good and bad while saying alcohol branding is fine?
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 01:55 AM
What has loan sharking got to do with those two things? Don't worry, it won't be a pointless rant, it's because Wonga literally is an evil company by any moral definition. There are no big companies that don't have morally questionable sides to them, whether that be in the form of tax evasion or the way in which their products are produced, but they are endemic problems of a larger economic framework. Wonga are just a bunch of whopping great thundercunts, and if Cisse made it clear this was going to be an issue for him ages ago, then Newcastle should have sorted out an arrangement.


Wonga really aren't that bad at all.

They are very upfront about their fees and charges, if people use them and are too stupid to repay the fees that they've set out then that's not Wonga's fault. Payday loan companies are normally shitty, I agree, but Wonga is the best of them.
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Company with questionable morals that takes advantage of the stupid.
Refuses to wear a top with their logo on for religious reasons.

Anyone else see the irony?
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 08:57 AM
If he was ethical then why not previous sponsors? Does the Qur'an have a section saying what type of money is good and bad while saying alcohol branding is fine?

Muslim's aren't supposed to drink at all, so how alcohol is branded is probably irrelevant to them.

Then again there are claims Cisse is a regular at a casino on Tyneside, and gambling is another Muslim no-no. If true, it doesn't help.

The problem is that there's all sorts of misinformation and reliance on second-hand sources given the club never open their mouth for anything apart from special offers on our new training kit. Until then anything could be true.
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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 10:07 AM
I love when people quote their APR without realising what the 'A' stands for


Aye, it's awesome. If anyone takes out a Wonga loan for a full year they deserve to be in the amount of debt that it will come with.

If Cisse is against Wonga on the grounds that under Sharia law no-one/company can benefit from the lending of money, why was he so happy to promote Virgin Money and Northern Rock?

That said, if he made this clear to the powers that be earlier that he wasn't going to be happy with it - there should have been a solution sorted earlier because he's a key player for the club. I have a feeling he wants a new contract or something.
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By Poe | Permalink | On 18 July 2013 - 14:38 PM
Aye, it's awesome. If anyone takes out a Wonga loan for a full year they deserve to be in the amount of debt that it will come with.

If Cisse is against Wonga on the grounds that under Sharia law no-one/company can benefit from the lending of money, why was he so happy to promote Virgin Money and Northern Rock?

That said, if he made this clear to the powers that be earlier that he wasn't going to be happy with it - there should have been a solution sorted earlier because he's a key player for the club. I have a feeling he wants a new contract or something.

How do the Islamic banks make money then? They dont do loans/mortgages, no interest on accounts? Load of fucking bullshit.
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They'll just do what Kanoute did, he had a blank strip at Sevilla iirc. Although it was said that he offered to wear a blank one or charity one and it was refused but I'd say that's bullshit
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Guardian Finance section on Islamic banks...
How do the banks make money?
Banks can profit from the buying and selling of approved goods and services. The principal means of Islamic finance are based on trading, and it is essential that risk be involved in any trading activity, so banks and financial institutions will trade in sharia-compliant investments with the money deposited by customers, sharing the risks, and the profits between them.

Islamic banks are structured so that they retain a clearly differentiated status between shareholders' capital and clients' deposits in order to make sure profits are shared correctly.

Although they cannot charge interest, the banks can profit from helping customers to purchase a property using a ijara or murabaha scheme. With an ijara scheme the bank makes money by charging the customer rent; with a murabaha scheme, a price is agreed at the outset which is more than the market value. This profit is deemed to be a reward for the risk that is assumed by the bank.

There are firm laws governing the types of business the banks can trade with. There should be absolutely no investment in unsuitable businesses, including those involved with armaments, pork, tobacco, drugs, alcohol or pornography.


Though customers I've red elsewhere say that Islamic banks simply charge more on your loan outright rather than on interest.

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