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@mons should be fixed now 🙂

Hmm it might also be because of the icon on the downloads button. Can you visit the tracker and click “mark all files as not needing re-downloading” which will remove it and tell me if that fixes it.

I've put the old logo back for now

I fixed a bug where the file tracker was showing you lots of files that didn't need updating, it should be more limited now to those that actually need updating.

I've also included a notification in the header menu and a clearer link and description from the dropdown, which only shows when you have files that need updating.

I imagine this will be annoying right now because it will include files going back years that people won't care about anymore. I'm working on correcting this to allow you to ignore older files

I just fixed a bug where if you were subscribed to a forum you wouldn't be getting new notifications about posts or topics.

So some people may be surprised to start getting notifications that they signed up for months/years ago, there is an easy delete button included in every notification.

You can also check your subscriptions here: https://sortitoutsi.net/forum-subscriptions 

Are you still finding that this is inaccurate sometimes?

It's on my bug todo list but I haven't been able to find any issues so far.

Positions weren't included in the update, as per the list above.

I'm not sure right now whether to include them or not. We don't have the data for it right now.

@t.marinov I think your bug with the Bulgarian activity should be fixed now

I just made two more changes since I noticed it still happening in the logs. Let me know if it's reoccuring

Yes it would.

The normal data update has essentially all the same information.

You would need to unselect “sortitoutsi.net Data Update - Changes” and use this instead. But keep all the other league changes XML files.

@Priisek just a heads up, you shouldn't need to include the date updated in the title. It shows on the site on the right sidebar always and with a big green alert whenever a user has downloaded a previous version but not the most recent.

We've just launched a new “Visual Skins Viewer” which lets you quickly and easily browse all the skins we have to offer using screenshots rather than the usual text based forum.

View it here: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2022-skins 

Ideally i'd like to organise it so that each screenshot is tagged as being a particular screen and then you can easily compare things like the squad screen or the player profile screen, but this isn't available yet.

Tagging a few skinners to get their thoughts 🙂

@flut 

@Priisek 

@Maruemon 

@Octopuzz 

@Vince957 

@budwaiser4 

To be even clearer, the following are updated:
 

• Person Type (player/non-player)
• Date Of Birth*
• Player CA
• Player PA
• Non Player CA
• Non Player PA
• Team Contracted To
• Team Contract Job
• Team Contract Last Signed*
• Team Contract Expires*
• Team Contract Wage
• Team Contract Type
• Team Contract Will Leave At End
• Loaned To Team
• Loan Expires
• Loan Can Be Recalled
• Loan Expires*
• Loan Fee To Buy
• Loan Wages
• Future Transfer Team
• Future Transfer Date
• Future Transfer Contract Expires*
• Future Transfer Fee
• Future Transfer Wage

*All dates are one year different, so that each player is a year older and one year closer to their contract expiring e.g. Mbappe will be 22 years old and have his contract expiring in one year in 2021 

**Because CA has been adjusted the game will automatically modify the attributes to match the new CA.

It only updates CA and PA.

The game will automatically adjust attributes to match the updated CA/PA so they won't be the same as in FM22 but will be different to FM21.

I've added a new feature in the last few days the Weekly SORTITOUTSI Newsletter this is a simple overview of all the new and active content from around the site from the past 7 days, released automatically every Monday.

Right now it's entirely automated but we're hoping to add some personalisation to it with some little editorials and a bit more of a human touch.

We're also planning on making it available via email and on social media but for now you just need to visit the link itself each week.

For now you can access it using the newspaper icon at the top of any page.

All feedback is welcome if there's anything else you'd like to see included 🙂

@mons I can see the errors in the logs it seems to be something to do with SSL certificates with certain sites.

I've made some changes but i'm not 100% sure if they'll make a difference. Please let me know if it happens again.

Only just working on this now.

I don't think it's going to be possible to set the squad status as it's not possible to extract this information as far as I can tell. This means that every single player will wind up being edited just to set “First Team”.

Contract type does seem editable.

Please correct me if i'm wrong or confused.

@BramNUFC fixed the pagination links not working 🙂

@kingrobbo can you attach the latest version of your EDT file?

Nope sorry if I've confused.

I just saw in the logs that you tried to delete a submission from a pack but it failed. Just double check your packs and if they look okay there's nothing to worry about 🙂

@moondog777 no the issue was with deleting submissions. Just check the packs you uploaded and check if the images you wanted were deleted properly or not. Should be no reason to re-upload

I assume that's what people want though? If in the real world we somehow bought all the best footballers ever to this day using a time machine then… the football world would be flooded with world class players.

I don't think you can add legends to the game without it being flooded with highly rated players.

I think maybe we're talking past each other here, i'm just suggesting an the online form that would generate an edt file so it won't be possible to set -8 or -9 if you can't set those in edt files???

@kingrobbo what do you mean by a different route? Something like what I suggested with an online form that automatically generates the edt file? Or something else?

Any thoughts on solving the issues listed?

Hey @kingrobbo i'm just opening this up again.

I know you got frustrated before but I think this could be a great edition if given a little more publicity and maybe a proper tool/form to create new regens.

What do you think to giving it a go for FM22?

I'm thinking we could have a form where anyone could submit new regens with a simple moderation process, then the files get automatically created and it automatically manages staggering the ages (we could also randomise it so you don't get the same people coming through in the same order each year). 

I also thought it might be fun to allow people to create private regens as well e.g. creating all our school classmates, work colleagues, family, sunday league team etc. This would of course bypass any moderation process and be separate.

Keen?

I would like to create a new Legends Database editor to the site. This will allow people to collaborate on adding legends to the game such as Pele, Maradona, Roberto Baggio, George Best etc 

This will involve creating new people so will be developed alongside the adding missing people feature.

I would like to be able to add any of the following:

• Individual Legends e.g. Maradona and Pele
• Legendary Squads e.g. Arsenal 03/04 Invincibles, Man Utd 98/99 Treble Winners

Todo List

In order for this to happen the following changes need to be made.

• Create a new site section similar to the Data Update but for the Legends Database, with its own separate downloads and submission process.

Questions that need answering

The following potential issues will need investigating and this feature will not be released unless they can be resolved:

• We will need to create ID's for each person which are unique. These IDs will have to not clash with people added via the Data Update so that they can be used together.
• There will likely be some arguments about what version of each player should be made e.g. Ronaldo at Man Utd or Real Madrid? I think we should allow the creation of an unlimited number of variations of each legend, so that people can choose which version they want.
• When creating legendary squads I don't know what we should do with the existing squads e.g. with Arsenal's invincibles should we delete Arsenal's existing squad, release them or something else?
• It might be worthwhile expanding this to allow the creation of any fantasy person/team rather than just legends that way people can use it to create their friends, classmates, colleagues or favourite marvel characters. We could use the same underlying code, while having the site hide “personal” creations away from the main legends database.

Feature Status Confirmed, but not started 

This feature will definitely be added but work has not started.

Right now it's not possible to add new people to the Football Manager Database using our Submission Process. The plan is to make this possible.

It would be nice to be able to add the following types of people:

• Underage Wonderkids
• Lower League Players/Staff
• Players/Staff missing due to licensing issues (e.g. we could add all of Japan)

It's going to be important to keep this as simple as possible otherwise it will never actually get released if we try and make it too complicated and feature rich.

For that reason it will not be possible to edit a players attributes, instead you will only be able to choose a role and a position and the game will automatically generate attributes.

Todo List

In order for this to happen the following changes need to be made.

• Add a new form for creating people with the following fields (as well as existing fields)
  • Name
  • Date of birth
  • Nationality
  • Second Nation
  • Third Nation
  • Hair Colour
  • Skin Tone
  • Height
  • Right Foot
  • Left Foot
  • CA
  • PA (random from -0 to -10)
  • Role
  • Positions (one field for each position)

Issues that need resolving

The following potential issues will need investigating and this feature will not be released unless they can be resolved:

• We will need to create ID's for each person which are unique. At present the highest ID assigned to any person is 2002051140 I will try and see if we can start at 3000000000 so there's no chance of a clash.
• If a person is added in a future version of the game it would be good to change the generated ID to the real one from FM. We need to make sure this won't mess up various parts of the site if the ID changes (the site is coded in a way that assumes ID's never change).
• If a person existed in a previous version of the game and has been re-added (which often happens with retired people) then we should use the old ID. This will require some smart moderation and possibly the ability to edit the Unique ID in cases where mistakes are made.
• It would be good to be able to add player faces for these people, but we don't want to pollute the cut out faces megapack with fake IDs. We need to decide whether these created people are going to included in the graphic sections of the site as well.
• We need to decide who can create people, it may be best left to moderators only, especially at first.

Feature Status In Progress

I plan on adding this feature, but most of the difficulty is caused by the fact that the Data Update and the Graphics sections of the site use the same database and I don't want to pollute the graphics areas with lots of created people. This is mostly a technical issue for me that nobody else is able to help with unfortunately.

I've been receiving a number of requests to add a new feature to the Data Update which will allow an optional alternative update in which all transfers are set as future transfers with the real date the transfer occurred.

This means that if Paul Pogba joins Real Madrid on January 17th the update will leave Paul Pogba at Man Utd but with a Future Transfer dated January 17th 2022 rather than instantly changing his team to Real Madrid.

This will be an optional alternative data update that will not affect the main Data Update.

Todo List

In order for this to happen the following changes need to be made.

• We are going to add “Date Joined” and “Last Contract Signed” fields to the Data Update Submission form that will be required to be filled, this is what will be used to set the future transfer date.

Issues that need resolving

The following potential issues will need investigating and this feature will not be released unless they can be resolved:

• It is not possible to future date contracts, so if Pogba or Mbappe sign new contracts it means they won't be expiring at the end of the season, which is obviously a big deal which affects gameplay. Should we still update contracts but future date transfers?
• If a team spends £200m in January but the game only gives them a budget of £40m then they may unrealistically become bankrupt. Should we increase a team's budget, or just let it play out? We could reset a teams budget to -1 which means the game will automatically generate one.
• We cannot future date loans, so if a player joins another team on loan in January it will not be possible to add this loan accurately.
• We cannot set a loan back with a future transfer, so if a player moves club in January and part of the deal includes a loan back, we will not be able to represent this in game.

Feature Status In Progress

At present it is unlikely this feature will be released until solutions to the above issues are resolved.

You can now filter the items list by people that have a pending image and/or have an image in the pack.

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/submissions/1/items

It is not currently possible to sort by the age of active image. I'm not sure if/when i'm going to be able to do this.