SS' Kits
We have thousands of individual FM Kit Packs, when you download these packs your copy of Football Manager will be updated with all the latest kits. Not only that but you'll have our famous SS Kits, which we think are the best Football Manager Kits around.
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- 2025.04 - Released on 04 Dec 2024
NEW Submission System
A new submission system for the SS Kits has been released. Please see this forum topic.
Qvordrup
Please don't give up on this yet. Make the upload pack work and wait and see if we can't get this up and running. The benefits would be tremendous for all users of this site ๐๐
Footygamer
I've made a demo video showing how similar it is to the current system and how minor a change it is.
In this video i'm pretending to be @bolid74 and adding the Morecombe Kits to the League One section.
Key differences:
With comments in a thread
When submitting with a form
There's tons of benefits and it doesn't create any more work for creators at all, because using the form is just as easy as editing a comment.
Hopefully that clarifies things a little bit for those who were unsure or struggled with the language barrier.
Qvordrup
@Footygamer
@bolid74 should be made staff and his submissions to the system should be set as active automatic ๐
And please add a contribute and browse button to the 3D Kits page.
Footygamer
I'm not sure how best to handle that.
Should 3D and SS have different forms and timelines or the same? You don't want source images having to be posted in both places so maybe just one timeline and form. But then presumably you want separate browsing systems because showing 3D alongside SS would get very noisy. But that sort of hybrid system would be quite time consuming to code in the short term. These are some of the problems I identified in the original thread a year ago and the complexity of it is why it stalled.
weeniehutjr
I second adding bolid as a staff member if he's interested at all in doing so. Although I fear that it might lead to him being inundated with more โcan you make this English team's kits despite you already working on the whole league systemโ requests ๐
Footygamer
Thanks @bolid74 for all your submissions!
If you have more you could zip them up and attach them to this thread and i'll do it in bulk to save you the time. But it's great that you've been able to use the new form.
weeniehutjr
Perhaps on the club's timeline page adding tabs for โ2D SS Kitsโ and โ3D Kitsโ (and perhaps โ2D FC12 Kitsโ etc in the future if their community wants to partake, and โ2D Standard Kitsโ as well) so that there's some separation while still keeping everything navigable?
Quick mockup in Photoshop to illustrate what I mean (the tab buttons don't have to be placed exactly there of course!) - I'm picturing that clicking the tabs would stay on the same page but just fade transition between them.
One other thing is that when downloading the kits, they all have the same filename which is the club's UID. Could it be changed to something like โUID_home.pngโ or โclubname_home.pngโ instead?
hammer9
i understand, whoever makes for members who want kits, also like Bolid74 did this, great idea but I'm sure nothing to do with the SS download area right?
Qvordrup
One timeline and form ๐๐ and I also think one browsing system. You also have different images in the background browsing system at that works just fine. So what I would do is to add the contribute and browsing button to the 3D page and don't worry about adjusting the browsing system until much later in the process ๐๐
Footygamer
So downloads are separate but browse/submissions are the same. That will take some work to get right and of course the code changes risk creating more bugs for backgrounds/cut outs ๐ But it should be possible.
Footygamer
Well this one would change things for SS download area.
While we could still have packs split by nation/league. In theory we could also have a download button saying โDownload everything new since I last downloadedโ rather than having to download each individual pack.
Qvordrup
@Footygamer now that the submissions seems to be taking off I think we should prioritise our next step. I believe the next important step is to get the pack uploading working and get all the 22/23 kits pack already uploaded added to the system. I don't believe that people understand the need to upload already uploaded packs here as zip, so we need to find a different strategy ๐๐
gianni1970
Let me understand can I post the kits with the new method and also on the forum?
Qvordrup
Yes you can. But you only really need to use the new method ๐๐ this adds the kits to the browsing system when set to active by a moderator.
https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/2/13002/timeline
So really no need to post them also in the forum. But if you like you can still post them in the forum for now as long as you put them in the new system then all is good ๐
Qvordrup
And please upload any finished kits you have already made for 22/23 and 23/24 seasons to the new submissions system ๐๐
The possibility to upload packs will be added soon (so you can upload many kits in one go), but for now you have to upload them individually.
hammer9
this is only SS kits โฆ.
right? so why are 3D kits there? though only SS kits.. ๐คทโโ๏ธ should go to 3D kits? im sorry but just check tho.
hammer9
im sorry im bit confusedโฆjust try understandโฆ.(sorry)
SS' Official Kits Thread (NO REQUESTS) for only WIP working for their packs updated SS'Kits right?
SS' Kits Request Thread (NO FANTASY OR LEAKED KITS) for someone who wants kits also post with this
Team Name and ID:
League:
Pictures of the kits:
SS' kits Picture & Resources Thread (No Requests, fantasy or leaked kits) for someone who wants kits also post with images only
both look the same as Picture & Resources thread and Request thread. just one thread for a team name and ID, League, and Pictures of the kits would be better?
andโฆ. what I do if someone wants kits, already like team name, ID, league and images, should I take them to set up on Submission right?
Footygamer
3D and SS in the same place
Whether or not 3D and SS Kits use the same system or separate is open for discussion (see this comment).
On the one hand it seems better to have it on the same system because we don't want to people to have to submit requests and post the source images in two places.
But also it's a bit more noisy and confusing having them together with alot going on, on the page.
Do you see it as a problem having them both in the same place? I would be happy to hear your or anyone's thought.
In theory we shouldn't need the forum topic anymore, just the submission systems. I would prefer it was closed because like you say it's confusing having both.
Perhaps we could keep it open for discussion and have an auto post when new submissions are made as well?
Again we don't really need that thread anymore. This page is the equivalent of that thread.
I guess a decision has to be made as I see it these are the options:
My preference would be (1) or (2).
What do you think?
Does that make sense.
hammer9
ermโฆ..i think so 50/50โฆโฆ.bolid74's work SS kits his page 333 is still there, still carries on for updates, added kits so on still in SS Official Thread. I'm thinking better keep going on SS official thread as normal, I don't want to give member confused more, ermโฆ..butโฆ
ill closed the thread for SS' Kits Request Thread (NO FANTASY OR LEAKED KITS) and SS' kits Picture & Resources Thread (No Requests, fantasy or leaked kits)
but will put https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/submissions/2/queue?status=pending&type=source&inpack=no (Submission Queue) on the last posting. they can look and do the Submission Queue?
so if members post in SS official then ill let members know about Submission Queue. all members may look and follow as others to Submission Queue.
I keep going through some threads as normalโฆ
SS' kits Template Thread
SS' Official Kits Thread (NO REQUESTS) (remove no requests)
SS' Fantasy Kits Request Thread (NO REAL KITS)
SS' Retro kits
and another SS template, technical help, Susie avatar etc etc.
then see what happens for a few weeks, if any problem, we will sort it out ok?
Footygamer
Hopefully these pages are as good as page 333 and we can just direct people from 333 to there.
I will also update this page to have more features, it's a little plain at the moment ๐
hammer9
ok
DCarozzi87
when I created the SS' kits Picture & Resources Thread it was only for pictures and resources of the kits to try and keep completed kits and picture of kits separate. I found there were alot of people who post pictures of the new kits for this season but are not actually requesting the kits.
The kit request thread was to allow people to request kits but with the instruction that if the kits were already part of a league pack that was assigned in the WIP thread then the kits should not be requested.
These were all created as a stop gap while the submission system was created and can probably be closed now
hammer9
ok
Footygamer
I've updated the UI for browsing now so that it's a bit cleaner. It clearly shows how many images and if there are any comments.
It also adds a label if a kit has a 3D version or not. See here Hull doesn't have 3D but Luton does.
Things i'd like to do next:
(1) Automatically importing kit packs
This will add alot to the timeline, similar to cut out faces (e.g. Ronaldo has 5 pages https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/89496/timeline)
Any issues with this?
(2) Find a way to allow browsing by year.
This I think will be a contentious issue.
Some people will want any kit even if it's not the latest rather than having the FM default ones.
But some people will want to see a specific year when browsing.
I imagine we can just have something like this at the top of every page
(3) Adding a download button for teams and leagues
The main point here is to let people download all the WIP, right now it's really cumbersome for someone to get the English League 2 kits for 23/24.
But it will make things confusing for people who now have two options of how to get packs.
I'm thinking maybe it could automatically detect if an image is in a pack and if it is then then it links you to the pack and if not it links you to a single WIP download that lets you download everything that is WIP (this is a automatically generated zip with config.xml, no need for Hammer or anyone else to create or update this WIP pack).
(4) Removing 3D kits to own timeline
The issue here is sources, we don't want sources uploaded in two places. But maybe this could be fixed easily by just not allowing sources for 3D Kits.
Qvordrup
WOW ๐๐ This all sounds very promising IMO. Only issue that I think is not addressed is the possibility to upload packs (more kits at once) to the new submissions system ๐
Footygamer
I was going to start with converting old packs and move from there to other people uploading new packs since it should be the same code ๐
Qvordrup
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Qvordrup
@Footygamer @Shooto @tarajos @bolid74 @tomaszek @Fmanager86 (FUSION DB) @schweigi @siborg
You are all set as working on different leagues in the SS' kits 23/24 WIP thread.
You are now able to upload kits from the leagues you are working on before finishing the complete league with the new submissions system:
https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/submissions/2
We really want this system to take off as it holds great benefits for both kit makers and users, so we really hope you all will like this system and start to use it ๐๐
bolid74 and tomaszek have already started to use the system and we really hope it is working well for you.
This system is under development and improvement and additional features will be added over the next month
Take a look at the browsing system where bolid74 and tomaszek's kits have been added so the users can browse and download them before all of the kits have been made for the league(s) they are working on.
Look for bolid74 kits under england and tomaszeks under poland:
https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/2
bolid74
There's one minor issue, the kits are sorted in 22/23 leagues.
Footygamer
Good point. That has always been an issue everywhere on the site. Same with the data update (Burnley are listed as Championship but have the current squad).
I can't think of a quick way to fix that. Possibly by exporting all the fmf files from the data update to XML and extracting the data from there. But that would be quite difficult.
Manual work assigning the right team would also be very difficult though.