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Is that Kroos quote actually true?

I heard it last night and then almost instantly it was being called fake but now a lot of media outlets are reporting it. Not that fact checking is high up on the list of football journals priorities.
Madrid have in the last few weeks become the favourites to get him, so I wouldn't be surprised if he does join them.

Seems Di Maria will go to PSG ahead of us. But Vidal to United is looking increasingly likely. Fingers crossed.


Sob

So he did a webchat and this is what he said:
I believe Van Gaal is planning on playing 4-3-3 primarily next season although it wouldn't surprise me if you saw 5-3-2 enlisted on occasion.
United want to keep Evra but his wife, Sandra, is desperate to leave Manchester - she has been for a good while - and the club don't want to stand in his way in that regard given what a good servant he has been. It's a real blow if you ask me - he's a big character with a lot of experience and would have helped Luke Shaw settle in.
Part of the reason his decline was accelerated in recent years was because he was being asked to play a ridiculous number of games for a guy in his thirties who is all about bombing forward. In terms of signings, I believe they want to sign another left back, a centre-half and at least one more midfielder plus maybe a winger-forward type.
I'm told Di Maria is on the radar but that there's been no contact with the player or Real Madrid, which would suggest there's one or two others that the club are pursuing first. From what I was told last night, I think the Vidal rumours have taken on a life of their own.
I don't believe United are actively pursuing him at this stage and although I'm not saying things won't change, it looks like Juventus are really trying to create a market for him, in much the same way as Benfica did with Nicolas Gaitan a couple of years back.

The full transcript. Definitely interesting how uncertain the language is compared to last summer, club definitely isn't leaking anymore.

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Please don't sign him. Please.
Arturo Vidal has got Manchester United fans all of a flutter on social media and perhaps for once there's foundation to that. The Chilean midfielder has been increasingly linked with a move to Old Trafford and things have heated up over the past few days, especially in the Chilean press.

First there was the story that Manchester United were close to a deal and would push on after the World Cup. Then there were explanations of Louis van Gaal's obsession with the player and then followed reports that Manchester United had even requested the footballer's medical records from the Chile national set-up.

Now the man himself has spoken. Sometime Sport Witness scribbler and general transfer useful man Jonas Giaever has seen a Chilevision video in which Vidal is quizzed on Manchester United and the Premier League. His answers certainly don't suggest he wants the rumours to go away and to be able to continue at Juventus without hassle.

"I've heard the rumours, but I haven't spoken more about this topic... I'm enjoying my holidays, and when I return to Italy I'll see what happens... I'm very calm, and anyone would love to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world."

That all came from La Tercera and the Chilean newspaper's interpretation of the interview is pretty accurate, but when asked about a move to the Premier League Vidal said "Of course! Because any player would love to play for one of the biggest teams in the world."

That is hardly the 'I'm committed to Juventus and don't want to hear about any baseless rumours' that Juventus fans would want to hear.
According to 'the same source that broke the RVP news' Emmet Kennedy reckons Vidal for £35m is done.
Only 35mill? Surely not.
Weirdly that seems by far the most commonly speculated fee. If it's true it's an absolute bargain, but I still think it will be much higher if it happens at all.
Apparently Cabella only cost 7m.
According to 'the same source that broke the RVP news' Emmet Kennedy reckons Vidal for £35m is done.

Guarantee you Vidal doesn't move for anything below £40m. There is absolutely no reasoning for Juventus to sell him other than for a huge transfer fee, which £35m is not for a player of his importance and quality. Only reason Juve may accept less and around the £30m-£35m region would be if Nani or someone was included in the deal.

And there are reports from Italy that Evra has already signed for Juventus for a fee of about £2m on a 2 year deal. This was a few days ago, so that interview seems a little old/off. Apparently the only thing holding up the deal being official is Evra wanting to pen a goodbye letter first.
Guarantee you Vidal doesn't move for anything below £40m. There is absolutely no reasoning for Juventus to sell him other than for a huge transfer fee, which £35m is not for a player of his importance and quality. Only reason Juve may accept less and around the £30m-£35m region would be if Nani or someone was included in the deal.

And there are reports from Italy that Evra has already signed for Juventus for a fee of about £2m on a 2 year deal. This was a few days ago, so that interview seems a little old/off. Apparently the only thing holding up the deal being official is Evra wanting to pen a goodbye letter first.


Yeah, I agree, I'm just saying what I've read. The £35m fee seems to be coming from Italian press more than English most of whom (I say most, I mean all the shit ones you wouldn't trust if they told you the sky was blue and the grass was green) are reporting the deals off because we won't pay more than £32m. Honestly I'd be happy whatever we spent.

I suspect a £35m deal and Nani might suit all parties quite nicely.

Anyway, Vidal apparently said in an interview today:

"I'm in a big team already, which relaxes me if the United option fails".
Yeah, I agree, I'm just saying what I've read. The £35m fee seems to be coming from Italian press more than English most of whom (I say most, I mean all the shit ones you wouldn't trust if they told you the sky was blue and the grass was green) are reporting the deals off because we won't pay more than £32m. Honestly I'd be happy whatever we spent.

I suspect a £35m deal and Nani might suit all parties quite nicely.

Anyway, Vidal apparently said in an interview today:

"I'm in a big team already, which relaxes me if the United option fails".

Everything I've seen from Italy has been that Man Utd are offering £35m, while Juventus are wanting a figure closer to £40m, which I think is around €50m or so. He's already at a big club and one that will push for a 4th Serie A title on the trot, while looking to have a bigger impact in the Champions League. I think his contract extension he signed last year gives him a deal until 2017, so there's certainly no rush to make a deal happen if their valuation isn't met. Which will be the only way the deal happens because it's implausible to consider Vidal forcing a move.

Any deal could also hinge on what happens with Pogba also.
Next they'll be telling us it's 35 million euros and a blowjob from Fergie
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Everything I've seen from Italy has been that Man Utd are offering £35m, while Juventus are wanting a figure closer to £40m, which I think is around €50m or so. He's already at a big club and one that will push for a 4th Serie A title on the trot, while looking to have a bigger impact in the Champions League. I think his contract extension he signed last year gives him a deal until 2017, so there's certainly no rush to make a deal happen if their valuation isn't met. Which will be the only way the deal happens because it's implausible to consider Vidal forcing a move.

Any deal could also hinge on what happens with Pogba also.


What's the deal with Pogba?
What's the deal with Pogba?

In general or regarding transfer stuff?

I'll presume it's the latter, which at this stage doesn't appear that he'll be moving. Chelsea have been heavily linked because of his trip to London but that seems to have been squashed by his agent saying he'll be staying at Juventus. Which has more or less been the case anyway, even when being linked elsewhere during the year. That said, he does only 2 years left on his current deal I believe, meaning an extension has to come soon otherwise Juve will seriously need to consider moving him on if he isn't going to commit long term. If Pogba is sold for a ridiculous price this transfer window, Vidal will not be sold, and visa versa.
Everything I've seen from Italy has been that Man Utd are offering £35m, while Juventus are wanting a figure closer to £40m, which I think is around €50m or so. He's already at a big club and one that will push for a 4th Serie A title on the trot, while looking to have a bigger impact in the Champions League. I think his contract extension he signed last year gives him a deal until 2017, so there's certainly no rush to make a deal happen if their valuation isn't met. Which will be the only way the deal happens because it's implausible to consider Vidal forcing a move.

Any deal could also hinge on what happens with Pogba also.


If we are genuinely in for him, which seems at least likely given the Italian and Chilean reports, I would doubt the refusal to meet fee stuff is much more than posturing.

Saying that being tight has cost us players in the past, but we've already spent so much on Herrera and Shaw that it would seem ridiculous to start being tight about it now.
According to the Chronicle Ki is available for £1.5m. The bottom 15 clubs in the league should be all over that.

Wickham has also turned down a new contract. Apparently if he doesn't sign Sunderland will sell. - As they were pissed off with Colback, Bardsley and Larsson all running down their contracts and being indecisive on their futures.
If we are genuinely in for him, which seems at least likely given the Italian and Chilean reports, I would doubt the refusal to meet fee stuff is much more than posturing.

Saying that being tight has cost us players in the past, but we've already spent so much on Herrera and Shaw that it would seem ridiculous to start being tight about it now.

Well I guess it depends on how many other positions LvG wants to strengthen. Spending £40m on another midfielder when it could probably be better invested down back would be a reasonable enough reason to pull out of a deal, since I would imagine some serious wages would need to be included on top of the transfer fee.

Maybe it's partly down to already spending a big on two previous signing that a little more consideration needs to be taken now. Who knows.
Mail reporting the Vidal deal is off as Louis van Gaal wants other targets. Bold, and possibly bad, move if true.

Twitter buzz seems to indicate Nile Ranger is a target of Leeds. Fucking hell, how is he still getting chances?
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Mail reporting the Vidal deal is off as Louis van Gaal wants other targets. Bold, and possibly bad, move if true.

Twitter buzz seems to indicate Nile Ranger is a target of Leeds. Fucking hell, how is he still getting chances?


The same reporter said a deal was close just the day before this new article.
Mail reporting the Vidal deal is off as Louis van Gaal wants other targets. Bold, and possibly bad, move if true.


That's what I was talking about last night. Them, the mirror, and the other shite papers reported it last night to click bait. I'd be surprised if any United news got broken by them.
Mail reporting the Vidal deal is off as Louis van Gaal wants other targets. Bold, and possibly bad, move if true.

Twitter buzz seems to indicate Nile Ranger is a target of Leeds. Fucking hell, how is he still getting chances?


I saw him play at a 5 a side tourney in my local Goals. Had the touch of a rapist, no pun intended.
Had the potential to be a decent player too.

Stupid prick.
Costa has officially signed for Chelsea and Bruno Martins Indi has signed for Porto
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That's what I was talking about last night. Them, the mirror, and the other shite papers reported it last night to click bait. I'd be surprised if any United news got broken by them.

All rumours are clickbait balls to an extent. If you get a photo of him having a medical, going to sign a deal or actually wearing the shirt and speaking of his delight at joining, then you know for sure he's signed. But the amount of stuff at this time of year that is absolute bullshit is at toxic levels.
Had the potential to be a decent player too.

Stupid prick.

Aye. It would have been even more irritating if he'd scored more than 3 competitive goals at Newcastle, tbf.
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Twitter buzz seems to indicate Nile Ranger is a target of Leeds. Fucking hell, how is he still getting chances?

Does he live in Leeds or willing to live there? If not, he can't sign.
All rumours are clickbait balls to an extent. If you get a photo of him having a medical, going to sign a deal or actually wearing the shirt and speaking of his delight at joining, then you know for sure he's signed. But the amount of stuff at this time of year that is absolute bullshit is at toxic levels.


Of course, but when clubs leak they generally leak to the same people, because they trust them. We've stopped leaking like we used to under Moyes, in fact we've stopped leaking completely, but when we did leak it was to Mark Ogden of the Telegraph, James Ducker of the Times, and Daniel Taylor of the Guardian.

Other than that you have people who seem to genuinely know the movements of the club, Andy Mitten is one of ours, even if they don't get everything right. Basically, my point is none of them work for the Mail or the Mirror, at least, for United so whenever they post a transfer story, especially when they have big news going against the grain of other reports it becomes kinda obvious what they're doing. Edit: indykalia does the same thing, but for some reason the people that actually get paid for it get less flak.

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Markovic confirmed.
Bebe's gone as well. :'(

Good business from Benfica I reckon, sold Markovic for £20m and replaced him with a player that scored almost double the goals in Portugal last year.
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